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shah
shah 2025-01-11 11:48 a.m.
## CV-0090-25 tactical_pancakes v. AmitBX; in their quasi-official capacity as Captain of the Administrative Services Bureau of the Mayflower State Police and g_dsteal; in their quasi-official capacity as Trooper First Class of the Internal Affairs Division of the Mayflower State Police
shah
shah 2025-01-11 11:48 a.m.
CASE INFORMATION**

IN THE MAYFLOWER DISTRICT COURT FOR CLARK COUNTY

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CV-0090-25 tactical_pancakes v. AmitBX; in their quasi-official capacity as Captain of the Administrative Services Bureau of the Mayflower State Police and g_dsteal**; in their quasi-official capacity as Trooper First Class of the Internal Affairs Divi...
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shah
shah 2025-01-11 11:49 a.m.
@Awesome
shah
shah 2025-01-11 11:49 a.m.
@Deleted User
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-11 11:55 a.m.
I’ll draft a summons shortly.
AwesomeAwesome
I’ll draft a summons shortly.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-11 01:07 p.m.
Disregard this case, it was mis-filed
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-11 01:07 p.m.
It will be the filed when a clerical issue
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-11 01:07 p.m.
With DOJ is finished
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-11 01:07 p.m.
Sorry for the confusion
Deleted UserDeleted User
With DOJ is finished
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-11 04:17 p.m.
Hm, I’ll leave the channel open; just let me know when you’re ready to proceed (unless you want this dismissed) and we’ll go from there.
AwesomeAwesome
Hm, I’ll leave the channel open; just let me know when you’re ready to proceed (unless you want this dismissed) and we’ll go from there.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-11 04:27 p.m.
Bet, that saves me time
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-11 04:27 p.m.
It’s all dependent on their time line
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-11 04:27 p.m.
So I’ll keep you updated
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-16 07:19 a.m.
@Awesome

Okay! DOJ has finished their arbitration and concluded that they are unable to properly adjudicate the claim with how the law is written. I will have the civil complaint filed shortly
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-16 02:23 p.m.
Alright, I have attached the civil complaint in proper form within the filing center. I'm attaching a courtesy Google Drive copy here, for the courts review.

Complaint:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12rIBE_iAkQD-FY47EkIL9eZ0WJU_x-mF/view?usp=sharing
cc: @Awesome
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-16 03:22 p.m.
@ryan is co counsel
Toby
Toby 2025-01-16 03:44 p.m.
CLERICAL NOTICE
@ryan Has been added to the case channel, appearing as co-counsel for the Plaintiff.

CC: @Awesome @Deleted User
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-01-16 03:44 p.m.
Hai :3
Deleted UserDeleted User
Alright, I have attached the civil complaint in proper form within the filing center. I'm attaching a courtesy Google Drive copy here, for the courts review. Complaint: http...
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-16 05:47 p.m.
Please refile, as the paragraphs are not numbered continuously/consecutively.(edited)
AwesomeAwesome
Please refile, as the paragraphs are not numbered continuously/consecutively.(edited)
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-16 05:54 p.m.
I wasn’t aware that was included in the ROP
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-16 05:55 p.m.
I did a read through the other day and didn’t see that
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-16 06:01 p.m.
All averments of claim or defense shall be made in consecutively numbered paragraphs, the contents of each of which shall be limited as far as practicable to a statement of a single set of circumstances, and a paragraph may be referred to by number in all subsequent pleadings. Each claim founded upon a separate transaction or occurrence and each defense other than denials shall be stated in a separate count or defense when a separation facilitates the clear presentation of the matter set forth.

Mayfl. R. Civ. P. 11(f)
Awesome
Awesome 2025-01-16 06:01 p.m.
@Deleted User
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-16 06:10 p.m.
Aight, I’ll have the numbers fixed this evening
AwesomeAwesome
All averments of claim or defense shall be made in consecutively numbered paragraphs, the contents of each of which shall be limited as far as practicable to a statement of a sin...
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 09:18 a.m.
cc: @Awesome
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 11:34 a.m.
Any chance we can get a summons today? State’s counsel has already filed an NOA
honkhonk
honkhonk 2025-01-18 05:42 p.m.
This case shall be re-assigned to @mike_bn.
honkhonk
honkhonk 2025-01-18 05:42 p.m.
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honkhonk
honkhonk 2025-01-18 05:42 p.m.
@Deleted User
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 05:42 p.m.
Hi hello
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 05:42 p.m.
@mike_bn wsg Mr. Judge
honkhonk
honkhonk 2025-01-18 05:46 p.m.
@Nicklaus Counsel for the Defendant, Solicitor General
Deleted UserDeleted User
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 05:46 p.m.
This limk is being fixed, I just realized I sent the wrong one
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 05:50 p.m.
Link has been corrected
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 05:54 p.m.
how many times has this been amended :😭:
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 05:54 p.m.
@Deleted User is it amended for what u were saying in dms
NicklausNicklaus
@Deleted User is it amended for what u were saying in dms
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 05:55 p.m.
The original amendment had the fix
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 05:55 p.m.
or is there another one coming
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 05:55 p.m.
but I sent
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 05:55 p.m.
the wrong lik
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 05:55 p.m.
link
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 05:55 p.m.
is it final
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 05:55 p.m.
Yes, that link is final
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 05:55 p.m.
okay
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 05:55 p.m.
thanks
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 05:55 p.m.
defendants waive service @mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 05:56 p.m.
Thank you Jesus
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 05:56 p.m.
we will submit mtd in coming days
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 05:56 p.m.
and can Clifford be added to this channel please
honkhonk
honkhonk 2025-01-18 05:59 p.m.
have them file a NOA please(edited)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:03 p.m.
yap sesh!
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:03 p.m.
all we do is yap
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:03 p.m.
act like that's a bad thing
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:04 p.m.
fair
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:04 p.m.
ok tldr this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:04 p.m.
pls
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:04 p.m.
They waived summons
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:04 p.m.
complaint filed
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:04 p.m.
awaiting answer
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:05 p.m.
i see an issue with your complaint
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:05 p.m.
let me confirm it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
i fucking hate the quasi official capacity
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
so stupid
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
I know
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
its either official capacity or not
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
it took me
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
so long
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
to get used to it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
okay you need to sue the department as well
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
No
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
per the MSC
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
are u kidding
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
wtf
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
can't make it up
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
I legit had such a learning curve
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:06 p.m.
qualified immunity who?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:07 p.m.
Let me find the section
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:07 p.m.
senate will cry over papd driving around but wont fix stuff like this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:07 p.m.
i believe you
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:07 p.m.
defendants waived service
NicklausNicklaus
and can Clifford be added to this channel please
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:07 p.m.
sure
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:07 p.m.
what is cliffords role in this
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:07 p.m.
I believe he is MSP general counsel
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 06:07 p.m.
Co counsel
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:08 p.m.
k
mike_bnmike_bn
okay you need to sue the department as well
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 06:08 p.m.
department is named by virtue of quasi official
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:08 p.m.
so retarded
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:08 p.m.
cc: @mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:08 p.m.
I messed up several complaints
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:08 p.m.
when I first joined
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:08 p.m.
because I didn't know how this worked
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:09 p.m.
we just have to be special here dont we
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:09 p.m.
jeez
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:09 p.m.
I mean it was written by morale
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:09 p.m.
okay all parties are added deadline for reply issssssss
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:09 p.m.
what do you expect
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:09 p.m.
let me see
mike_bnmike_bn
we just have to be special here dont we
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 06:09 p.m.
wait until you realize we have an official misconduct statute from both ridgeway and another from Noah’s
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:09 p.m.
we will give you 10 days
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:09 p.m.
2 official misconduct
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:09 p.m.
torts
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:09 p.m.
does that work nick
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:10 p.m.
10 day reply period
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 06:10 p.m.
yes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:10 p.m.
k great
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:10 p.m.
for my record reply due jan 28 25
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-18 06:10 p.m.
at or before the end of jan 28
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:11 p.m.
Wow, that's a full 8 days of trump being in office, what a treat
Deleted UserDeleted User
Wow, that's a full 8 days of trump being in office, what a treat
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-18 06:11 p.m.
this is such a bait
NicklausNicklaus
this is such a bait
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:12 p.m.
are you gonna bite
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-18 06:17 p.m.
wait, that sounded bad
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 02:03 p.m.
@mike_bn @Brenda is co counsel
Toby
Toby 2025-01-20 02:10 p.m.
# CLERICAL NOTICE
@Brenda Has been added to the channel appearing as co-counsel for the Plaintiff.
Toby
Toby 2025-01-20 02:11 p.m.
Brenda, please file a verbal NOA
Toby
Toby 2025-01-20 02:11 p.m.
just for the record
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-20 02:13 p.m.
I appear as co-counsel.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 05:21 p.m.
This is my notification to the court of my intention to add a third cause of action to my civil complaint, after consulting with co-counsel.

I'm of course willing accept the court extending the reply period however many days they deem necessary.

cc: @mike_bn @Nicklaus
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-20 05:22 p.m.
you've amended your complaint three times
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 05:22 p.m.
Negative
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 05:22 p.m.
twice, and one was for a technical issue with numbering
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-20 05:22 p.m.
1. original
2. numbering
3. current
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 05:23 p.m.
Your math aint mathing
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 05:23 p.m.
I filed the initial complaint. Amended to fix numbering. Amended to fix a wrong citation of a tort.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 05:23 p.m.
2 amendments
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 05:24 p.m.
This next one will be an addition, not a change to the current causes of actions.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 05:24 p.m.
action*
NicklausNicklaus
1. original 2. numbering 3. current
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-20 05:47 p.m.
No, it was amended once on the request of the Court.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-20 05:48 p.m.
Plaintiff Tactical_Pancakes, by and through counsel (me), hereby moves to enter this Second Amended Complaint pursuant to the Mayflower Rule of Civil Procedure 17.
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 05:48 p.m.
God Bless Clark
BrendaBrenda
No, it was amended once on the request of the Court.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-20 05:51 p.m.
it's been amended twice lol
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 05:51 p.m.
Nick it's okay that you can't fight me on the merits, brenda is just here to make sure we get to the juice out the lemon
BrendaBrenda
Plaintiff Tactical_Pancakes, by and through counsel (me), hereby moves to enter this Second Amended Complaint pursuant to the Mayflower Rule of Civil Procedure 17. <@10501184671451...
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-20 05:53 p.m.
Third amended complaint*
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-20 05:53 p.m.
My bad
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-20 05:54 p.m.
(Title fixed)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-20 05:55 p.m.
This will be our last amendment to the complaint
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-20 07:04 p.m.
@Brenda its accepted
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-20 07:04 p.m.
please get leave next time
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-20 07:04 p.m.
pursuant to rule 17(a)
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 07:04 p.m.
:🙏🏼:
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 07:05 p.m.
We of course have no objection to an extension of the response period
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-20 07:05 p.m.
@Nicklaus do you need it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-20 07:05 p.m.
u get an extra 10 days if u so choose
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-20 07:05 p.m.
and do u waive service of new complaint
mike_bnmike_bn
and do u waive service of new complaint
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-20 07:10 p.m.
Yes. And just for the court record, we are in tentative settlement discussions
mike_bnmike_bn
and do u waive service of new complaint
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-20 07:31 p.m.
yes
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-20 07:31 p.m.
and we’ll take the 10 days but it will be done before then
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-20 07:32 p.m.
I have a lot of other cases so
NicklausNicklaus
and we’ll take the 10 days but it will be done before then
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-20 07:39 p.m.
k
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-20 07:39 p.m.
jan 30 reply due
Deleted UserDeleted User
Yes. And just for the court record, we are in tentative settlement discussions
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-22 10:38 p.m.
hows settlement jhit
mike_bnmike_bn
hows settlement jhit
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:39 p.m.
I believe, ironically, opposing counsel believes I have a sufficient basis for my suit, however the respondents are very much opposed.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:40 p.m.
We have been extremely generous in our settlement offers
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:40 p.m.
And I’d like that noted, if/when we get to the issuing of relief
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-22 10:41 p.m.
in that case lets try to nib this on summary
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:42 p.m.
My co counsel and I are both going to be filing a summary judgement motion, after we receive the complaint
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-22 10:42 p.m.
okay another thing
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:43 p.m.
My understanding is that opposing counsel will be filing a MTD related to QI, but we are confident it can be quashed.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-22 10:43 p.m.
@Nicklaus if both parties waive the hearsay rule, i can use whatever affidavit you provide
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-22 10:43 p.m.
for summary
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-22 10:43 p.m.
if we go that route
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-22 10:43 p.m.
but lets get past pre trial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:43 p.m.
Yeah, I know he’s got the response almost done an a MTD prepared
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:44 p.m.
However, we expect to make it out of pre-trial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:45 p.m.
@mike_bn Will the court stipulate to the admissibility of time stamped photos? We have close to 22 exhibits in discovery, many are discord messages. Respondents and counsel have access to essentially of the chats where these are derived from.

It would create a pretty significant burden to have to record my getting discord IDs on every party in the chat logs.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:45 p.m.
May be jumping the gun, but figured I’d ask now
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-22 10:45 p.m.
@Nicklaus up to you
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:46 p.m.
I’m almost positive that every single discord chat that will be listed in our discovery, the respondents and/or their counsel were in, and participated in
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-22 10:49 p.m.
can we get to that stage first :😭:
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-22 10:49 p.m.
just relax gentlemen.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-22 10:49 p.m.
mtd will appear in few days
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-22 10:49 p.m.
it’s not qualified immunity
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-22 10:50 p.m.
we will submit complaint response subsequently
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:50 p.m.
I’m intrigued, but not alarmed. Just ready to get to the meat and potatoes
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-01-22 10:50 p.m.
Gello
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:50 p.m.
I will be interested to see how you respond to our complaint
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-22 10:51 p.m.
Why does tactical pancakes have 2 co counsel
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-22 10:51 p.m.
:😡:
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:52 p.m.
Maybe because I have a job, and sometimes have low periods of availability.

Also, the avengers gotta assemble when grave injustice is perpetuated against a hardworking public servant
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-22 10:52 p.m.
We setting precedent babes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-23 08:38 a.m.
If the State’s MTD makes or relies on any factual assertions, then we will be requesting it be either postponed until after discovery and treated as a motion for summary judgment or an evidentiary hearing be conducted
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-23 08:38 a.m.
God bless
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-23 08:38 a.m.
:🙌🏻:
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-23 08:39 a.m.
They ain’t getting around our 22 exhibits! :🍦:
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-23 08:39 a.m.
That’s on period, as these young kids say today
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-23 11:57 a.m.
no yapping plz
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-23 11:58 a.m.
i know that’s difficult for you @Brenda
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-23 11:59 a.m.
Objection your honor, that’s not skibidi
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-23 11:59 a.m.
No cap
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-23 12:25 p.m.
Yes, your honor
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-25 07:07 p.m.
@Nicklaus nickkkkkkkkkkkkkk
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-25 08:08 p.m.
ger
mike_bnmike_bn used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-01-27 08:04 p.m.
Case Modified
@mike_bn has added @Brenda to the case channel.
BrendaBrenda
(Title fixed)
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-29 07:49 p.m.
girl can u put all these in filing center
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-29 07:49 p.m.
guys mtd being submitted tonight
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-29 07:49 p.m.
we've changed arguments a lot so im sorry for delays
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-29 07:52 p.m.
Dang ima delete my default judgement draft
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-29 07:52 p.m.
You were cutting it close
NicklausNicklaus
we've changed arguments a lot so im sorry for delays
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-29 07:52 p.m.
Gonna wish you hadn’t spent so much time on it hon
Deleted UserDeleted User
Gonna wish you hadn’t spent so much time on it hon
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-29 07:52 p.m.
i havent
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-29 07:52 p.m.
procrastination is king
NicklausNicklaus
i havent
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-29 07:53 p.m.
Broski with this level of procrastination we deserved default. Practically made us wait an exact 10 extra days
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-29 07:53 p.m.
LOL
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-29 11:02 p.m.
ive already started drafting actual response
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-29 11:02 p.m.
maybe another mtd at pretrial
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-29 11:37 p.m.
We hereby move for leave to file an amended complaint with the phrase "individual capacity" to clarify the capacity in which the individual defendants are sued.
This will address the Solicitor General's concerns and moot a response to the MTD.
@mike_bn
BrendaBrenda
We hereby move for leave to file an amended complaint with the phrase "individual capacity" to clarify the capacity in which the individual defendants are sued. This will address t...
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-29 11:47 p.m.
(Proposed amended complaint)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-29 11:48 p.m.
Since no changes have been made to the allegations, we would submit that the deadline should remain unchanged should the Court accept the amendment.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-29 11:48 p.m.
Otherwise, I can have a response to the MTD filed within a couple days.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-29 11:49 p.m.
cc @mike_bn @Deleted User
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:13 a.m.
How are we filing motions to dismiss before a response has been submitted
BrendaBrenda
We hereby move for leave to file an amended complaint with the phrase "individual capacity" to clarify the capacity in which the individual defendants are sued. This will address t...
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:19 a.m.
we object
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:19 a.m.
we are going on to the fifth complaint now
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:19 a.m.
the apple is gone
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:20 a.m.
in the words of Brenda
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:20 a.m.
Okay and you filed a MTD before you even officially responded to the actual complaint
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:20 a.m.
It appears we are all doing things out of order
NicklausNicklaus
we are going on to the fifth complaint now
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:20 a.m.
4**
Deleted UserDeleted User
4**
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:20 a.m.
the complaint plus the four amendments
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:20 a.m.
five
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:21 a.m.
if leave were to be granted
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:21 a.m.
I still think the more pressing issue is the fact that somehow the respondents are moving to dismiss a case they have not formally responded to.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:21 a.m.
I don’t think the court can entertain this motion until you’ve responded to the complaint
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:23 a.m.
a motion to dismiss is a responsive pleading
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:23 a.m.
we shouldn’t be burdened to respond to allegations that will be sticken
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:24 a.m.
Per the rules of civil procedure, your response must address each individual tort that is being litigated. Not my words, that’s the rules. It would also violate essentially every precedent set by prior civil cases in Clark for the respondents to use a motion to dismiss in lieu of an actual response.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:25 a.m.
We have no problem with you filing a MTD, we simply offer that a response must first be filed, and then the aforementioned motion.
Deleted UserDeleted User
Per the rules of civil procedure, your response must address each individual tort that is being litigated. Not my words, that’s the rules. It would also violate essentially every p...
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:25 a.m.
this does not violate any precedent
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:25 a.m.
but im not going to sit here and argue
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:25 a.m.
I said I was gonna submit an actual answer subsequently but you guys are trying to amend again
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:27 a.m.
Actually, we won’t even amend. I’ll talk with Brenda. However, I’m gonna note our issue with a MTD being filed before an answer is submitted. I don’t think this motion can be entertained until you file an answer to our complaint. We will respond, when appropriate, to your MTD, once we hear from the court
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:27 a.m.
read 13(b)
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:27 a.m.
okay
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:27 a.m.
I’ll try to have an answer tonight no matter what happens with this mtd
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:28 a.m.
Fair enough
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:28 a.m.
We’ll have a response in due time
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-30 04:14 p.m.
Plaintiff Tactical_Pancakes hereby submits his Response in Opposition to Defendants' Motion to Dismiss.
@Deleted User @mike_bn @Nicklaus
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 07:11 p.m.
@Nicklaus we still getting a response today?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:22 p.m.
@mike_bn can we please get an update on our issue with a MTD being filed prior to an answer being submitted? Yes I know we filed our response already. If just like the procedural issue addressed
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-30 08:34 p.m.
girl
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:34 p.m.
Girl you did not respond to every claim in your MTD
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:34 p.m.
Don’t get short with me honey
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-30 08:35 p.m.
You’re entitled to file your motion, of course, but a response to each individual claim is a prerequisite
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-30 09:37 p.m.
^^ Agreed.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-01-30 09:37 p.m.
Piecemeal MTDs just won't do...
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-01-30 10:54 p.m.
you RETARDS talk too much
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-31 12:20 a.m.
the response is done
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-31 12:20 a.m.
@mike_bn can we submit a reply to their opposition to the mtd
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-31 12:20 a.m.
specifically the course of proceedings test
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-01-31 12:20 a.m.
since the mtd doesnt touch on it
NicklausNicklaus
@mike_bn can we submit a reply to their opposition to the mtd
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-31 11:30 a.m.
You wanna reply to our response but you can’t reply to our complaint, girlllll
Deleted UserDeleted User
@mike_bn can we please get an update on our issue with a MTD being filed prior to an answer being submitted? Yes I know we filed our response already. If just like th...
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-01-31 03:46 p.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted UserDeleted User
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 08:06 a.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 08:07 a.m.
Your honor, it is now a day past the, extended deadline of 10 extra days for the response to our complaint. We will be moving for default judgement to be issued; as is required under the Rules of Civil Procedure, and is demonstrated by ample case law.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 08:08 a.m.
Written motion will be filed later today or tomorrow.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 09:49 a.m.
after the complaining, i thought we were waiting on whether the mtd was a response
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 09:49 a.m.
I’m going to ask the court not to accept this filing
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 09:49 a.m.
you can't
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 09:50 a.m.
I can, you filed outside of the allotted window
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 09:50 a.m.
That submission is not proper
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 09:50 a.m.
Ima just wait for insert to get online, we’ve got like three pending things we need rulings on
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 09:51 a.m.
i was waiting on a ruling on whether the mtd was a responsive pleading
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 09:51 a.m.
yeah
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 09:51 a.m.
I don’t wanna get things mixed up
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 11:10 a.m.
ill review later
mike_bnmike_bn
ill review later
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 12:07 p.m.
We just ask that you give us time to explain our issues with certain things, prior to you ruling. Just tag me when you’re ready
NicklausNicklaus
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:41 p.m.
denied
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:41 p.m.
i think they established their suit as to this cause of action is an individual capacity suit
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:42 p.m.
@Brenda how the hell did u get ahold of my font
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:42 p.m.
on the basis of the course of proceedings test or
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:42 p.m.
Your honor, we like a short “hearing” or just time to address our concerns about their lack of complaint
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:42 p.m.
We’d like*
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:42 p.m.
no
Deleted UserDeleted User
Your honor, we like a short “hearing” or just time to address our concerns about their lack of complaint
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:43 p.m.
what side r u
NicklausNicklaus
on the basis of the course of proceedings test or
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:43 p.m.
on the basis of my judgement
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:43 p.m.
What lack of complaint
mike_bnmike_bn
on the basis of my judgement
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:43 p.m.
ok
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:43 p.m.
Huh? I’m the complainant
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:43 p.m.
ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:43 p.m.
yeah u right
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:43 p.m.
I’d like to address
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:43 p.m.
zip it for a second buttercup
BrendaBrenda
(Proposed amended complaint)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:44 p.m.
accepted
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:44 p.m.
Okay honey buns
NicklausNicklaus
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:44 p.m.
accepted
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:44 p.m.
@Deleted User you idiots want to amend ur complaint last second then get pissy when they reply last minute
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:44 p.m.
boo hoo
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:44 p.m.
cry me a river
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:45 p.m.
Your honor, we didn’t amend a factual element. We clarified something that, as you yourself pointed out, is implied in the original form
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:45 p.m.
as it stands:

motion to dismiss is denied
amendment complaint is accepted
reply is accepted
(edited)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:45 p.m.
we are ready for pre trial
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:45 p.m.
i am opening pre-trial for
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:45 p.m.
lets say 7 days
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:45 p.m.
work?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:45 p.m.
I’d like an opportunity to address our objection to their reply, if I could
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:45 p.m.
no
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:46 p.m.
ur not gonna invoke default here
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:46 p.m.
its accepted leave it at that
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:46 p.m.
there was a motion to dismiss and a motion for leave pending to file an amended complaint pending
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:46 p.m.
i could of rejected your amendment as it wasnt made in a timely manner
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:46 p.m.
idk how we were meant to reply
NicklausNicklaus
there was a motion to dismiss and a motion for leave pending to file an amended complaint pending
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:46 p.m.
yeah exactly
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:46 p.m.
its whatever
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:46 p.m.
its what maybe a day late?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:46 p.m.
who cares
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:47 p.m.
we are ready for pre-trial
mike_bnmike_bn
i could of rejected your amendment as it wasnt made in a timely manner
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:47 p.m.
Your honor, you explicitly pointed out in your ruling on the MTD that the amendment addresses something that is implicit to begin with
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:47 p.m.
what r u yapping about
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:47 p.m.
ur yapping about nothing
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:47 p.m.
I’m just gonna stop, you made your mind up and aren’t willing to hear me out
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:47 p.m.
i accepted your amendment
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:47 p.m.
no im not
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:47 p.m.
here let me make this fair
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:48 p.m.
@Nicklaus im fining you 500 bucks for not replying on time
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:48 p.m.
give the 500 to any rando in game within 7 days
mike_bnmike_bn used
/pretrial
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-01 01:48 p.m.
Pretrial Schedule
Discovery will be taken care of separately during the pretrial period.

Pre-trial motions will be accepted until Sunday, February 9, 2025 at 1:48 p.m. or 5 months ago.

The pre-trial period will end on Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 1:48 p.m. or 5 months ago.
mike_bn pinned a message to this channel.2025-06-21 08:39 p.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 01:49 p.m.
@Deleted User @Nicklaus @Brenda
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:49 p.m.
umm
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:49 p.m.
okay i guess ?
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:49 p.m.
anyways can we ask that the plaintiff file their amended COMPLAINTS in the filing-center
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:49 p.m.
and keep motions written so this channel stops getting flooded :(
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:50 p.m.
I’ll attach it in about five minutes
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:50 p.m.
When I’m back at the station
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:50 p.m.
We will also have discovery ready to file
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:50 p.m.
This afternoon
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:50 p.m.
I’m suspecting that most of our exhibits will be stipulated by the respondents, so if we wanna work together to see what overlap there is, I think that will help streamline things @Nicklaus
mike_bnmike_bn
@Nicklaus im fining you 500 bucks for not replying on time
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:53 p.m.
so direct, summary criminal contempt
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:53 p.m.
can you clarify
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:53 p.m.
Yeah I’m confused by the fine
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:55 p.m.
you've not given much clarity on how the response was late i.e. whether the motion to dismiss was or was not a responsive pleading
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:55 p.m.
or, how, under the rules, the answer to the complaint was late
NicklausNicklaus
you've not given much clarity on how the response was late i.e. whether the motion to dismiss was or was not a responsive pleading
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 01:56 p.m.
Well, your MTD didn't respond to every count
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 01:56 p.m.
So, in any case, it was not a responsive pleading as to the counts you didn't move to dismiss
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 01:57 p.m.
And I'm not sure why you held your answer to the complaint hostage if it was already finished
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:57 p.m.
Nicklaus_s — Today at 12:46 PM
there was a motion to dismiss and a motion for leave pending to file an amended complaint pending
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 01:58 p.m.
The main thing we were trying to do is clarify the court record in order to determine if a procedural err occurred.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:58 p.m.
regardless i wasnt asking you cuh
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 01:58 p.m.
I don't want papi to get mad at me, and I definitely don't want no sanctions
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 01:58 p.m.
So I'm gonna stfu
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 01:58 p.m.
yeah pancakes and are i just confused
mike_bnmike_bn
@Brenda how the hell did u get ahold of my font
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 01:59 p.m.
The Black Youth Project was given a generous donation from the Mary Ferell Foundation :🥰:
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 02:00 p.m.
All our young ones get a copy
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 02:00 p.m.
Yo fr Brenda send me that don’t
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-01 02:00 p.m.
Font
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 02:51 p.m.
We hereby file this Motion for Default and Default Judgment against Defendants AmitBX and g_dsteal.

@mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 02:52 p.m.
The Solicitor General only filed an Answer for the Mayflower State Police. The individual defendants, however, are in default.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:03 p.m.
no
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:03 p.m.
the response is for the official capacity defendants
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:03 p.m.
the amended complaint was not accepted until after the answer
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:03 p.m.
we incorporate the answer for all defendants in this action
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:04 p.m.
That's not what the Answer states
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:04 p.m.
We will await the judge's judgment on this matter
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:05 p.m.
And Count 3 is individual-capacity
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:05 p.m.
So "official capacity defendants"?
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:05 p.m.
They're in default either way
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:05 p.m.
girl
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:05 p.m.
the amended complaint just got accepted and the motion to dismiss just got denied
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:05 p.m.
count 3 just now turned into individual capacity
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:05 p.m.
count 3 is answered in the answer
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:06 p.m.
You can make your arguments in your response brief
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:06 p.m.
We've clearly shown that the Answer only represents the MSP
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:06 p.m.
Not AmitBX, not g_dsteal, not Jane Doe down the street
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:07 p.m.
ok then the individual defendants were never served and did never waive service
NicklausNicklaus
defendants waive service @mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:09 p.m.
No cause you and Clifford waived service for them
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:09 p.m.
You're their counsel
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:09 p.m.
There, defendants was in pluralis
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:10 p.m.
In your answer, defendant was in singularis
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:10 p.m.
You're welcome to be their lawyer, but your failure to Answer for them is not our problem?
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-01 03:11 p.m.
Mama doesn't want no sanctions so I'm gonna wait patiently for InsertReality look a good little girl :😊:
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:18 p.m.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:19 p.m.
individual defendants invoke their right to plead under mayfl. r. civ. p. 37(c)
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-01 03:20 p.m.
individual defendants incorporate their answer to the complaint as a response to the pending motion for default
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 04:08 p.m.
@Brenda default motion denied
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 04:08 p.m.
stop bickering in here
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 04:08 p.m.
if it keeps happening im throwing out sanctions
NicklausNicklaus
Click to see attachment.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 04:08 p.m.
accepted
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-01 11:19 p.m.
@mike_bn why can i speak here
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-01 11:20 p.m.
i think we should sanction everybody
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-01 11:20 p.m.
one million dollars
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-01 11:20 p.m.
payable to the Jewish Collections Charity
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-01 11:20 p.m.
JCC
HolyRomanRyanHolyRomanRyan
@mike_bn why can i speak here
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 11:46 p.m.
i agree
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mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 11:46 p.m.
this stands
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-01 11:46 p.m.
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-01 11:46 p.m.
Can we get a ruling on the bench
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 11:46 p.m.
STFU
HolyRomanRyan
HolyRomanRyan 2025-02-01 11:46 p.m.
sorry .
mike_bnmike_bn used
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clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-01 11:46 p.m.
Case Modified
@mike_bn has removed @ryan from the case channel.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 11:46 p.m.
STUF
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-01 11:46 p.m.
ASSHOEL
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Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-02 02:41 a.m.
How is summary judgment supposed to work if discovery ends after the deadline for pre-trial motions..?
@mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-02 02:41 a.m.
Unless I’m reading this wrong
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-02 03:02 a.m.
It should be discovery → pre-trial motions → replies
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-02 06:55 a.m.
Yeah I recognized the same thing
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-02 09:11 a.m.
When discovery even beginning
BrendaBrenda
How is summary judgment supposed to work if discovery ends after the deadline for pre-trial motions..? @mike_bn
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-02 09:41 a.m.
pre trial is discovery
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-02 09:41 a.m.
its all lumped up in the same timeframe
mike_bnmike_bn
its all lumped up in the same timeframe
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-02 06:29 p.m.
Yes, that’s the issue. We can’t move for summary judgment if the discovery is filed after the deadline for pre-trial motions has passed.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-02 06:30 p.m.
The defense could wait until February 10 to file their discovery; in which case the deadline for summary judgment motions has passed.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-02 06:31 p.m.
And the same issue would arise with motions to suppress evidence, etc.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-02 06:32 p.m.
See Mayfl. R. Civ. Pro. 24(1)(d)

(d) Sequence and Timing of Discovery. Except as provided in subdivision (b)(5) or unless the court upon motion for the convenience of parties and
witnesses and in the interest of justice orders otherwise, methods of discovery may be used in any sequence, and the fact that a party is conducting discovery, whether by deposition or otherwise, shall not delay any other party's discovery.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-02 06:32 p.m.
cc: @mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-02 06:34 p.m.
The issue Ms. Popplewell raises is the contradiction which would arise under Rule 35(1)(a)

(a) Effect. A party who moves for a directed verdict at the close of the evidence offered by the adverse party may offer evidence in the event the motion is denied without having reserved the right to do so and to the same extent as if the motion had not been made. The denial of a motion for a directed verdict shall not operate to discharge the jury. A motion for a directed verdict shall state the specific grounds therefor. The order directing a verdict is effective without any assent of the jury.

If you rope discovery under pre-trial, with the same deadline, then we are not capable of filing a motion for summary judgement; given that the respondents aren't even obligated to supply their evidence until the closure of the period itself.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-02 06:35 p.m.
The correct remedy is to set a specific window for discovery, within the pre-trial period, and to ensure the closure of such period is several days post-completion of discovery.

In this way, we would be able to file our necessary motions, and be in keeping with the Rules of Civil Procedure.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-02 06:44 p.m.
ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-02 06:44 p.m.
discovery due feb 10
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-02 06:44 p.m.
pre trial period ends feb 15
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-02 06:44 p.m.
work?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-02 06:44 p.m.
@Deleted User @Brenda
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-02 06:51 p.m.
Yes
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-02 06:53 p.m.
thanks judge
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-02 07:03 p.m.
Perfect
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-02 07:03 p.m.
God bless
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-03 07:17 p.m.
@mike_bn we'd like a written ruling on the MTD please
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-03 07:23 p.m.
We’d like a written request for a written ruling please
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-03 07:23 p.m.
im kidddddding, just joke!
NicklausNicklaus
@mike_bn we'd like a written ruling on the MTD please
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-03 10:04 p.m.
r u serious
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-03 10:04 p.m.
here
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-03 10:04 p.m.
Bro is fixing to give you a one sentence written ruling
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-03 10:04 p.m.
Paperless Ruling

Government’s motion to dismiss is denied.

/s/ insertreality
insertreality
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-03 10:05 p.m.
Called it
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-05 03:57 p.m.
Plaintiff's Discovery is attached.

Courtesy Link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wjO8B-It6sRxfoXb86OzYjno5-Uxcq9V/view?usp=drive_link
(edited)
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-05 04:20 p.m.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-08 05:31 p.m.
@mike_bn confirming you saw
Deleted UserDeleted User
@mike_bn confirming you saw
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-08 06:15 p.m.
mike_bnmike_bn
Click to see attachment.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-08 06:16 p.m.
Just gonna also note; Defense was given our discovery on the second of January, three days before we filed it with the court, AND 8 days prior to the ending of discovery.(edited)
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-08 06:16 p.m.
I would hope this information is quite relevant if the respondents fail to file the necessary documentation by the conclusion of discovery
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-08 06:17 p.m.
We do intend to file a motion for summary judgement
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-08 06:35 p.m.
Alert alert
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-08 06:35 p.m.
Plaintiff intends to file a motion for summary judgment
NicklausNicklaus
Alert alert
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-08 06:36 p.m.
Alert alert
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-08 06:36 p.m.
Respondents don’t intend to respect the timeframes
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-08 06:38 p.m.
NicklausNicklaus
Click to see attachment.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-08 06:38 p.m.
Call me crazy
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-08 06:38 p.m.
But I foresee
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-08 06:38 p.m.
You asking for an extension
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-08 06:39 p.m.
is the google drive link and the pdf file the same
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-08 06:39 p.m.
Of course it is
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-08 06:39 p.m.
Okie
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-09 12:03 p.m.
waiting for my rebuttal experts and ill submit tonight after ig et home
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-09 11:24 p.m.
@Deleted User
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 12:09 a.m.
MOTION FOR SUBPOENA SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM, SEQ. #003

We hereby move the Court to issue a subpoena duces tecum commanding Robbe_DumbIedore to produce the following records which are available on his Roblox account on Roblox.com:

⁍ A screenrecording showing the ENTIRETY of his Roblox account item transactions (including all purchases of shirts, pants, hats, accessories, and more on Roblox.com)
This is available on the following link: https://www.roblox.com/transactions

⁍ A screenrecording showing the ENTIRETY of his Roblox account inventory (including all currently owned his shirts, pants, hats, accesories, and more on Roblox.com)
This is available on the following link: https://www.roblox.com/users/2379107466/inventory

@mike_bn @Nicklaus @Deleted User
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 12:10 a.m.
MOTION FOR SUBPOENA SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM, SEQ. #004

We hereby move the Court to issue a subpoena duces tecum commanding PoopMentality to produce the following records which are available on his Roblox account on Roblox.com:

⁍ A screenrecording showing the ENTIRETY of his Roblox account item transactions (including all purchases of shirts, pants, hats, accessories, and more on Roblox.com)
This is available on the following link: https://www.roblox.com/transactions

⁍ A screenrecording showing the ENTIRETY of his Roblox account inventory (including all currently owned his shirts, pants, hats, accesories, and more on Roblox.com)
This is available on the following link: https://www.roblox.com/users/2480028936/inventory

@mike_bn @Nicklaus @Deleted User
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 12:11 a.m.
Let me know if I need to file written versions of these motions.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 12:14 a.m.
We also hereby admit "PoopMentality" and "Robbe_DumbIedore" as lay witnesses.
BrendaBrenda
MOTION FOR SUBPOENA SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM, SEQ. #003 We hereby move the Court to issue a subpoena duces tecum commanding Robbe_DumbIedore to produce the following records which...
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 12:18 a.m.
(We request that these screenrecordings include them refreshing the pages to prevent manipulation.)
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-10 12:42 a.m.
good luck getting those videos :😭:
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 12:58 a.m.
He’s your witness. If he refuses to comply, we will move to have his testimony stricken.
BrendaBrenda
MOTION FOR SUBPOENA SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM, SEQ. #004 We hereby move the Court to issue a subpoena duces tecum commanding PoopMentality to produce the following records which ar...
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-10 01:07 a.m.
i motion for you to ligma balls
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-10 01:07 a.m.
ill review
BrendaBrenda
MOTION FOR SUBPOENA SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM, SEQ. #003 We hereby move the Court to issue a subpoena duces tecum commanding Robbe_DumbIedore to produce the following records which...
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-10 01:08 a.m.
ok what are the grounds
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-10 01:08 a.m.
for this
mike_bnmike_bn
ok what are the grounds
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 01:17 a.m.
They’re the alt accounts used to impersonate Tactical_Pancakes.

We’ve already submitted evidence showing that these 2 individuals and DiamondKreekKiIIer bought the MSP shirt and pants 1 day before the incident, and are friends on Roblox. DiamondKreekKiIIer recorded the video while one of his friends, Robbie or PoopMentality, impersonated Tactical. The subpoenas are the only way to prove which one of them bought the hair, hats, accessories, etc. used to look exactly like Tactical.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 01:18 a.m.
On phone rn so can’t reference the exact exhibit but it’s in our discovery.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-10 01:30 a.m.
we hereby admit poopmentality as a lay witness
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 01:33 a.m.
EXHIBIT U
We hereby admit this video into evidence showing that DiamondKreekKiIIer, RobbIe_DumbIedore, and PoopMentality are friends on Roblox
(edited)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 01:34 a.m.
@mike_bn
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-10 01:34 a.m.
would plaintiff be opposed to depositions
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-10 01:35 a.m.
i can make motions tmrw but we’re already past discovery deadline
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 01:35 a.m.
These alts don’t have any Discord accounts
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 01:35 a.m.
How would they be deposed?
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-10 01:36 a.m.
yes they do
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-10 01:37 a.m.
minus rob i suppose
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 02:11 a.m.
MOTION FOR SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM, SEQ. #005

We hereby move the Court to issue a subpoena duces tecum commanding DiamondKreekKiIIer to produce the following records:

⁍ The original, unedited audio content from the following video he uploaded on YouTube on January 5, 2025: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE1VJaE_OCA

@mike_bn @Nicklaus @Deleted User
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 02:12 a.m.
I would find it suspicious that DiamondKreekKiIIer removed the audio from the video.
BrendaBrenda
I would find it suspicious that DiamondKreekKiIIer removed the audio from the video.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 02:14 a.m.
Probably because he was in a VC with Robbe and PoopMentality as they were impersonating Tactical.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 02:17 a.m.
Also, please keep in mind that their usernames use capital i's instead of l's.
For future reference, their users are as follows:

Robbe_Dumbiedore
DiamondKreekKiiier
PoopMentality

@mike_bn @Nicklaus @Deleted User
(edited)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 02:17 a.m.
Also suspicious, but I'll save that for trial.
BrendaBrenda
I would find it suspicious that DiamondKreekKiIIer removed the audio from the video.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 07:22 a.m.
Yeah I was gonna bring that up in pre trial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 07:23 a.m.
I don’t know if we can properly authenticate this until we can verify if there is audio or not
NicklausNicklaus
would plaintiff be opposed to depositions
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 01:35 p.m.
We are
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 01:36 p.m.
It would needlessly prolong the case
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 01:36 p.m.
We are fine with having them testify at trial
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-10 05:56 p.m.
@Brenda send me request on paper
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-10 05:57 p.m.
due to the volume of requests
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-10 05:57 p.m.
and in turn ill reply on paper
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 06:37 p.m.
@mike_bn
mike_bnmike_bn
@Brenda send me request on paper
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 06:41 p.m.
Do we need to move for subpoenae ad testificandum (for the lay and expert witnesses) for the trial or will the Court enter those sua sponte?
BrendaBrenda
Do we need to move for subpoenae ad testificandum (for the lay and expert witnesses) for the trial or will the Court enter those sua sponte?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-10 06:50 p.m.
if u want witnesses subpoenaed
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 06:52 p.m.
@mike_bn Actually, Rule 30 allows attorneys to enter subpoenas duces tecum without leave of court.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 06:52 p.m.
I'll write them up. But I do request that the Court direct service by publication as to the alt accounts.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 06:52 p.m.
Or that the Court order DiamondKreekKiiier to serve the subpoenas on them via Roblox DMs (since they're friends).(edited)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 07:18 p.m.
@mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 07:19 p.m.
We move the Court to direct service of process.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 07:20 p.m.
As expressed earlier, I highly encourage the Court to order DiamondKreekKiiier to serve the subpoena on Robbe_Dumbiedore.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 07:20 p.m.
DiamondKreekKiiier and PoopMentality are on Discord.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 07:20 p.m.
Also don’t forget we’d like to compel the original form of the YouTube video
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 07:20 p.m.
It's in there
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 07:21 p.m.
Gotcha
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-10 07:21 p.m.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-10 07:21 p.m.
Perfect
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-12 07:16 a.m.
@mike_bn When could we expect a ruling
BrendaBrenda
@mike_bn
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-12 09:03 a.m.
proposed order and subpoena
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-12 09:03 a.m.
and you can find someone to serve
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-12 09:03 a.m.
or my clerk can
mike_bnmike_bn
proposed order and subpoena
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-12 09:04 a.m.
That is the subpoena. Rule 30 empowers attorneys to enter them without a court order (similar to how it's done in real life)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-12 09:04 a.m.
We just need your clerk to serve on DiamondKreekKiiier and PoopMentality
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-12 09:05 a.m.
And to order DiamondKreekKiiier to serve it on Robbe_Dumbiedore via Roblox DMs
BrendaBrenda
And to order DiamondKreekKiiier to serve it on Robbe_Dumbiedore via Roblox DMs
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-12 09:05 a.m.
(Robbe has no Discord )
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-12 09:23 a.m.
We also need a ruling on our request to produce the unedited versions of the video we highlighted
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-12 09:23 a.m.
Unless service of the subpoena is going to encompass that
BrendaBrenda
That is the subpoena. Rule 30 empowers attorneys to enter them without a court order (similar to how it's done in real life)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-12 09:46 a.m.
KK
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-12 09:46 a.m.
okay then prepare the subpoena
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-12 09:46 a.m.
its granted
BrendaBrenda
@mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-12 09:51 a.m.
@mike_bn They're all in there. It's 3 subpoenas in one document
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-12 09:52 a.m.
One for DiamondKreekKiiier, one for Robbe_Dumbiedore, and one for PoopMentality
BrendaBrenda
@mike_bn They're all in there. It's 3 subpoenas in one document
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-12 10:37 a.m.
ok they are approved
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-12 10:37 a.m.
signed
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-12 10:37 a.m.
serve or @leoisnoob can
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-12 10:37 a.m.
at his earliest convenience
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-13 07:27 a.m.
@leoisnoob When could we expect service of the subpoena s
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-13 07:27 a.m.
Subpoenas
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-13 02:09 p.m.
@mike_bn could we potentially get another clerk to serve the three subpoenas
Toby
Toby 2025-02-13 03:30 p.m.
@Deleted User @Brenda Hi, I'll serve the subpoenas as mutual aid to Insert and his clerk
TobyToby
@Deleted User @Brenda Hi, I'll serve the subpoenas as mutual aid to Insert and his clerk
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-13 03:31 p.m.
Bless you
Toby
Toby 2025-02-13 03:31 p.m.
Can you please outline which ones are to be served
mike_bnmike_bn used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-13 06:18 p.m.
Case Modified
@mike_bn has added @leoisnoob to the case channel.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-13 06:18 p.m.
@leoisnoob serve at earliest convenience
BrendaBrenda
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-13 08:54 p.m.
@Toby this is the first one
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-13 08:54 p.m.
We gotta make the others
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-13 08:54 p.m.
@Brenda right now only the dumbledore subpoena is in the case chat
Deleted UserDeleted User
@Toby this is the first one
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-13 10:33 p.m.
No all 3 are in there(edited)
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2025-02-14 12:56 a.m.
I will serve when i am home
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2025-02-14 12:57 a.m.
I apologise i did not have access to this channel
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2025-02-14 05:55 a.m.
@Brenda just clarifying you want me to request that DiamondKreekKiiier serve Robbe_Dumbiedore with the same document through Roblox
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2025-02-14 05:55 a.m.
right
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2025-02-14 06:11 a.m.
leoisnoobleoisnoob
@Brenda just clarifying you want me to request that DiamondKreekKiiier serve Robbe_Dumbiedore with the same document through Roblox
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-14 06:29 a.m.
I want an order forcing him to
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-14 06:29 a.m.
@mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-14 06:32 a.m.
Something along the lines of: “DiamondKreekKiiier is ORDERED to serve this subpoena on Robbe_Dumbiedore via Roblox direct messages (DMs)“
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-14 06:33 a.m.
A link would probably get tagged on Roblox DMs, so maybe just order him to inform him of the subpoena
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-14 01:32 p.m.
@leoisnoob please confirm when you’ve sent all three
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2025-02-14 05:30 p.m.
I believe i am still waiting for insert to order diamondkreekkiiier to serve robbe
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-15 02:52 p.m.
@mike_bn Did Pre-trial end today at the time you sent the timeframe (5:44 PM EST). Or is it EOD for the 15th?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-15 06:43 p.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-16 12:54 p.m.
@mike_bn can we please schedule trial
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-16 01:20 p.m.
dude
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-16 01:20 p.m.
im busy
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-16 01:22 p.m.
im in tally rn for mock trials
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-16 01:22 p.m.
leave me alone!
mike_bnmike_bn
leave me alone!
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-16 01:22 p.m.
Sir, respectfully, we have an obligation to keep things moving
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-16 01:23 p.m.
i oblige you to lick my hairy fruit
mike_bnmike_bn
i oblige you to lick my hairy fruit
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-16 01:24 p.m.
Mr judge, it takes five minutes to setup a trial schedule
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-16 02:21 p.m.
HELP
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-16 03:25 p.m.
@mike_bn When should we expect you to begin observing your duties again?
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2025-02-16 04:22 p.m.
everyone send their general availability @Brenda @Deleted User @Nicklaus
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-16 04:22 p.m.
I’d like continuous
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-16 04:22 p.m.
My general availability
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-16 04:22 p.m.
can we just do it over discord
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-16 04:22 p.m.
Yeah continuous over discord
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-16 04:22 p.m.
Except we shall wait one day
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-16 04:22 p.m.
Pancakes and I have some talking to do
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-16 04:22 p.m.
yes
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-16 04:22 p.m.
Talking
Deleted UserDeleted User
@mike_bn When should we expect you to begin observing your duties again?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-16 09:01 p.m.
a congratulations for winning an award would be appreciated
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-16 09:01 p.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-16 09:01 p.m.
gang
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-17 05:18 p.m.
@mike_bn Can we please schedule trial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-17 05:19 p.m.
I'd really like to get this thing moving
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-17 05:19 p.m.
Feel like the respondents are trying to help drag this out
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-17 10:07 p.m.
@Deleted User put trial times
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-17 10:07 p.m.
can u also put both discoveries here
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-17 10:08 p.m.
also, if you wish to make any stipulations or preliminary request
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-17 10:08 p.m.
do so now
mike_bnmike_bn
@Deleted User put trial times
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-18 06:05 a.m.
I believe we both asked for continuous discord
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-18 06:05 a.m.
From what I saw
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-18 06:06 a.m.
I’ll find the discoveries in just a little bit
NicklausNicklaus
@Deleted User
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-18 06:39 a.m.
Defendant discovery
Deleted UserDeleted User
Click to see attachment.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-18 06:40 a.m.
Plaintiff discovery
mike_bn pinned a message to this channel.2025-06-21 08:39 p.m.
mike_bn pinned a message to this channel.2025-06-21 08:39 p.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-18 08:29 a.m.
pre trial closed
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-18 08:29 a.m.
@Deleted User @Nicklaus do the parties wish to establish stipulations or agreements as to pre admission
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:42 a.m.
@Deleted User wow for being so persistent on moving forward you’re awfully quiet
mike_bnmike_bn
@Deleted User wow for being so persistent on moving forward you’re awfully quiet
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-19 09:44 a.m.
I’m conversing with the defense
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-19 09:44 a.m.
And waiting on their response
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-19 09:44 a.m.
They’re not being forthcoming
Deleted UserDeleted User
I’m conversing with the defense
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:45 a.m.
where we go
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:45 a.m.
well
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:45 a.m.
pre admission and stipulations are more so to ensure the trial goes smoothly
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:45 a.m.
and there aren’t unexpected disputes to evidence
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:46 a.m.
@Nicklaus lets try to engage here
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-19 09:46 a.m.
I think we are well aware of what pre admission is
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:46 a.m.
i am setting a preliminary hearing over discord on feb 21 @ 11:00 AM EST
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:46 a.m.
i dont know that
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-19 09:46 a.m.
I’m simply trying to get the defense to respond
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:46 a.m.
most attorneys here done
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:46 a.m.
dont
Deleted UserDeleted User
I’m simply trying to get the defense to respond
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:47 a.m.
well if he doesnt show up at the hearing or
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:47 a.m.
further notify us
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:47 a.m.
well figure something out
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-19 09:48 a.m.
I’ve been trying to get average communication
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-19 09:48 a.m.
It’s been impossible
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:50 a.m.
well if he doesn’t show or tell us he cant, we will address it
BrendaBrenda
@mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-19 09:51 a.m.
@mike_bn Robbe_Dumbiedore hasn't been served with the subpoena
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-19 09:51 a.m.
Can you order DiamondKreekKiiier to notify him or, alternatively, issue serve by publication
BrendaBrenda
Can you order DiamondKreekKiiier to notify him or, alternatively, issue serve by publication
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 09:57 a.m.
is his name on the subpoena
mike_bnmike_bn
is his name on the subpoena
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-19 09:59 a.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-19 09:59 a.m.
The document contains 3 subpoenas
BrendaBrenda
Yes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 11:29 a.m.
I’ll summon by publication asked to all of the witnesses
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 11:29 a.m.
Just to ensure we have a proper service
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-19 11:43 a.m.
Wonderful
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-19 11:43 a.m.
I'll enter subpoenae ad testificandum once the trial is scheduled
BrendaBrenda
@mike_bn
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-19 07:53 p.m.
can u google drive the sub
mike_bnmike_bn
can u google drive the sub
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-21 04:25 p.m.
@mike_bn Did his honor forget about the hearing he set
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-21 04:30 p.m.
Woah
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-21 04:30 p.m.
@Nicklaus Nick son
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-21 04:30 p.m.
how about we finalize
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-21 04:30 p.m.
what we were discussing
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-21 04:30 p.m.
Yo I just got home
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-21 04:30 p.m.
I'm feeling neglected
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-21 04:31 p.m.
Yo, you left me on the high school equivelant of "read"
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-21 04:31 p.m.
as the kids say(edited)
Deleted UserDeleted User
@mike_bn Did his honor forget about the hearing he set
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-21 04:49 p.m.
discord hearing
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-21 04:49 p.m.
and yes i did
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-21 04:50 p.m.
i will fine myself 1k and donate it to a random stranger
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-21 04:50 p.m.
I’m waiting on the defense to give me a final word on a potential settlement
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-21 04:50 p.m.
They’ve been holding me in limbo for days
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-21 04:50 p.m.
If I don’t get one today, I’d like us to start continuous discord trial tomorrow
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-21 04:51 p.m.
@Deleted User summons published
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-21 04:51 p.m.
okay great
Deleted UserDeleted User
If I don’t get one today, I’d like us to start continuous discord trial tomorrow
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-21 04:51 p.m.
ehhhhh
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-21 04:52 p.m.
i would much rather we do prelim
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-21 04:52 p.m.
figure out what we are vs arent introducing
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-21 04:52 p.m.
Hopefully counsel shows some courtesy and finally gives me a decision
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-21 08:07 p.m.
@Deleted User @Nicklaus
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 02:37 a.m.
@mike_bn Hi your honor! We move to hold DiamondKreekKiiier in contempt of court for creating a new Discord account to conceal his old one.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 02:37 a.m.
Our subpoena specifically demands production of Discord communications between DiamondKreekKiiier, PoopMentality, and Robbe_Dumbiedore.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 02:37 a.m.
I believe him making a new account is an attempt to evade the production order.
BrendaBrenda
@mike_bn Hi your honor! We move to hold DiamondKreekKiiier in contempt of court for creating a new Discord account to conceal his old one.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 02:39 a.m.
I think your clerk @leoisnoob can confirm this is a new account
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 02:40 a.m.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 02:40 a.m.
"ticket 2782 appeal" proves he has had an account since at least November 2, 2024
BrendaBrenda
I think your clerk @leoisnoob can confirm this is a new account
leoisnoob
leoisnoob 2025-02-22 03:24 a.m.
it does appear he's made a new account
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 03:28 a.m.
(And also magically left all Discord servers or deleted his old, so “My dog ate my password” isn’t really on the table)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 06:54 a.m.
@mike_bn DiamondKreekKiiier has admitted to deleting his real Discord account, and with it the evidence subpoenaed, after he received the subpoena
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 06:55 a.m.
We ask the Court to take judicial notice of this message.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 06:55 a.m.
And to hold him in contempt accordingly.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 06:57 a.m.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 06:57 a.m.
He wants the maximum sentence time, Your Honor
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-22 06:57 a.m.
And we have no objection to the Court reciprocating that request
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-22 11:38 a.m.
It’s almost like they got something to hide
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-22 01:28 p.m.
@mike_bn preliminary hearing
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-22 01:29 p.m.
Please schedule
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-22 01:29 p.m.
This evening or tomorrow afternoon
Deleted UserDeleted User
@mike_bn preliminary hearing
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-22 08:59 p.m.
when can @Nicklaus do
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-22 08:59 p.m.
additionally i will go over contempt at prelim
mike_bnmike_bn
when can @Nicklaus do
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-22 09:22 p.m.
sometime in the mid morning to afternoon before 5pm est
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 09:01 a.m.
@mike_bn let’s do 1 PM EST
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 09:01 a.m.
@Nicklaus
NicklausNicklaus
sometime in the mid morning to afternoon before 5pm est
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 10:03 a.m.
1 work?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 11:08 a.m.
scheduled for 1 pm est
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 11:08 a.m.
g is discord @Deleted User @Nicklaus
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 11:46 a.m.
Okay
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 11:46 a.m.
I’ll be ready at 1
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 12:23 p.m.
Wonderful
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:23 p.m.
@Nicklaus
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:23 p.m.
Make sure you show up
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:45 p.m.
@mike_bn @Nicklaus Let's get this show on the road
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 12:50 p.m.
yep
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:51 p.m.
watch this
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:51 p.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:51 p.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:51 p.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:51 p.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:51 p.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:53 p.m.
your honor.......
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:53 p.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:53 p.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:53 p.m.
would you honor us with your presence?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 12:59 p.m.
its not 1 yet
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 12:59 p.m.
@Deleted User @Nicklaus r we ready
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 12:59 p.m.
We have been ready
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 12:59 p.m.
yes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 12:59 p.m.
ok its not 1
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 12:59 p.m.
we were scheduled for 1
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:00 p.m.
not 12:50
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:00 p.m.
now we will begin
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:00 p.m.
ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:01 p.m.
do we want to preadmit anything
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:01 p.m.
@Nicklaus @Deleted User
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:01 p.m.
It would be easiest if we just all stipluated to each others exhibits
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:01 p.m.
@Brenda I think had something to raise regarding diamond
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:01 p.m.
whatever the parties wanted to do
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:02 p.m.
theres a lot of exhibits
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:02 p.m.
i dont want lengthy objection battles at trial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:03 p.m.
@Nicklaus Besides something with diamond that I need to confirm, do you want to just stipulate to everything
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:03 p.m.
i would say this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:03 p.m.
waive hearsay to all exhibits
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:03 p.m.
other objections are valid
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:03 p.m.
if the parties want
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:04 p.m.
because looking at these exhibits i can see a lot of hearsay arguments
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:05 p.m.
ok
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:05 p.m.
The last exhibit in defense's discovery
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:05 p.m.
well
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:05 p.m.
is no longer in existence
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:05 p.m.
Exhibit Z
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:05 p.m.
@Nicklaus pls restore that
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:05 p.m.
lemme see
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:06 p.m.
the last thing i want is
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:06 p.m.
half the trial to be spent on
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:06 p.m.
handling objections
Deleted UserDeleted User
Exhibit Z
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:06 p.m.
mike_bn pinned a message to this channel.2025-06-21 08:39 p.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:06 p.m.
perfect
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:06 p.m.
okay
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:07 p.m.
@Nicklaus @Deleted User lets work something out
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:07 p.m.
i was watching dexter
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:07 p.m.
i want to continue
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:07 p.m.
I think that was already in my discovery as well
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:07 p.m.
yeah it was
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:07 p.m.
perfect
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:07 p.m.
problem solved
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:08 p.m.
Aight brenda is coming
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:08 p.m.
Hello
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:08 p.m.
to offer some insight on something
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:08 p.m.
this is between parties
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:08 p.m.
figure out what u want to do
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:08 p.m.
and its fine by me
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:08 p.m.
In the name of expediency
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:09 p.m.
@mike_bn Does your honor have a decision on my motion to hold DiamondKreekKiiier in contempt of court?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:09 p.m.
yes they are in contempt
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:09 p.m.
lets not put the wagon in front of the horse
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:09 p.m.
lets get through this first
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:09 p.m.
There's a reason
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:09 p.m.
we will stipulate to plaintiffs exhibits A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K

Exhibit A, B is in our discovery under chappie interview messages

Exhibit C is in our discovery under discpliinary report

Exhibit D, E is in our discovery within the chappie interview messages

Exhibit F, G, H, I is in our discovery as diamond video

Exhibit J, K is in our discovery in pancakes interview messages
NicklausNicklaus
we will stipulate to plaintiffs exhibits A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K Exhibit A, B is in our discovery under chappie interview messages Exhibit C is in our discovery under dis...
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:10 p.m.
Can we just stipluate that both of your experts on criminal investigations will both equally support your case, and just choose one to testify?
NicklausNicklaus
we will stipulate to plaintiffs exhibits A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K Exhibit A, B is in our discovery under chappie interview messages Exhibit C is in our discovery under dis...
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:10 p.m.
okay what is the nature of your stipulation proposal
Deleted UserDeleted User
@Nicklaus Besides something with diamond that I need to confirm, do you want to just stipulate to everything
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:10 p.m.
what does pancakes want
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:11 p.m.
@Brenda
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:11 p.m.
Can you present your request
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:11 p.m.
regarding diamond
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:11 p.m.
And we'll move from there
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:11 p.m.
all summoned people are in discord
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:11 p.m.
fyi
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:13 p.m.
We move to strike DiamondKreekKiiier as a witness. He has failed to comply with this Court's subpoenas and his testimony would be more prejudicial than probative.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:13 p.m.
There's nothing Diamond can testify to that we don't already have videographic evidence of.
BrendaBrenda
We move to strike DiamondKreekKiiier as a witness. He has failed to comply with this Court's subpoenas and his testimony would be more prejudicial than probative.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:13 p.m.
is he the author of videos
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:14 p.m.
He should not be allowed to play fast and loose with the Court's proceedings.
mike_bnmike_bn
is he the author of videos
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:14 p.m.
Yes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:14 p.m.
or exhibits
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:14 p.m.
He filmed the video in question
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:14 p.m.
he is the complaintant
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:14 p.m.
well that brings some issues
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:14 p.m.
It's only an issue if we object to him not testifying
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:14 p.m.
what is defense stance on not allowing diamond to talk
mike_bnmike_bn
well that brings some issues
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:15 p.m.
If I may just add, we make this motion in fairness; considering that he's refusing to produce evidence that would aid our defense while offering evidence opposite our defense
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:15 p.m.
well
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:15 p.m.
i dont think its more prejudicial than probative, but i will say this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:15 p.m.
record of his prior non-compliance with the orders of this court
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:15 p.m.
can be used at trial
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:16 p.m.
in regards to his credibility
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:16 p.m.
What if we waive any hearsay objections that may arise from him not being able to testify?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:16 p.m.
that is my exact issue
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:16 p.m.
I'm sure we can reach a favorable solution
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:16 p.m.
id like diamond be able to testify
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:16 p.m.
im willing to remove him as a witness if we waive all objections to evidence in which he authored
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:16 p.m.
since he recorded the video
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:16 p.m.
that started this mess
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:16 p.m.
and pre-admit the exhinit
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:16 p.m.
exhibit
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:17 p.m.
are plaintiffs going to also uhh
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:17 p.m.
whats their names
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:17 p.m.
Well, it's up to you
NicklausNicklaus
since he recorded the video
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:17 p.m.
well beyond contempt there needs to be some punitive measure for not complying with orders of this court
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:17 p.m.
no its up to you guys
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:17 p.m.
If he's allowed to testify, we will be impeaching his credibility instanter
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:17 p.m.
And we will not hold back
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:17 p.m.
you guys come to a solution
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:17 p.m.
If the court is going to let him testify, which would be under objection by the Plaintiff, we would at the very least ask him to be considered a hostile witness.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:17 p.m.
thats fine with me
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:18 p.m.
without objection so ordered
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:18 p.m.
@mike_bn We also move to compel Robbe_Dumbiedore to comply with the subpoena, he has not produced the records we requested
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:18 p.m.
The Court should put a 2-day deadline or something
BrendaBrenda
@mike_bn We also move to compel Robbe_Dumbiedore to comply with the subpoena, he has not produced the records we requested
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:18 p.m.
sure he has a 2 day deadline
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:18 p.m.
Or to order him to show cause
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:18 p.m.
yeah my other question wer about robbe and poop
mike_bnmike_bn used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-23 01:18 p.m.
Case Modified
@mike_bn has added @leoisnoob to the case channel.
BrendaBrenda
@mike_bn We also move to compel Robbe_Dumbiedore to comply with the subpoena, he has not produced the records we requested
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:19 p.m.
can u notify this guy he must comply
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:19 p.m.
Nick one more thing about your experts
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:19 p.m.
Can we just stipluate that both of your experts on criminal investigations will both equally support your case, and just choose one to testify?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:19 p.m.
I think two experts in the exact same field are superfluous
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:19 p.m.
Actually, what exactly will your experts be testifying about`? @Nicklaus
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:19 p.m.
I'd like this clarified while we're here
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:19 p.m.
i dont think i clarified in discovery
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:19 p.m.
but i intended my experts as rebuttals to yours
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:20 p.m.
I have serious doubts about them being considered "expert" witnesses
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:20 p.m.
I don't think we have admitted any expert witnesses
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:20 p.m.
@Deleted User Have we?
BrendaBrenda
I don't think we have admitted any expert witnesses
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:20 p.m.
We admitted two
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:20 p.m.
2
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:20 p.m.
experts
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:20 p.m.
yo
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:20 p.m.
here brenda
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:21 p.m.
yeah lets do 1 expert per topic
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:21 p.m.
nick pick an expert for investigation and prosecution to cut
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:21 p.m.
Okay, Brenda and I have a solution
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:21 p.m.
to offer
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:22 p.m.
ok
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:22 p.m.
Which is to strike all expert witnesses, ours and theirs
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:22 p.m.
no objection
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:22 p.m.
If the defense agrees
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:22 p.m.
great
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:22 p.m.
use of expert witnesses prohibited
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:22 p.m.
Okay, Nick you stipulated up to exhibit K
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:22 p.m.
any objections for L-T
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:22 p.m.
let me see
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:23 p.m.
And if there are no objections, I'd like the court to consider this to be authenticated as well
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:23 p.m.
I don't want us double dipping
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:23 p.m.
with objections
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:23 p.m.
plaintiff l-t?
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:23 p.m.
pl's exhibits L-O(edited)
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:23 p.m.
we object
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:23 p.m.
to
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:23 p.m.
Not so fast
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:23 p.m.
well
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:23 p.m.
Arbitrtion is legally mandated to take place PRIOR to civil litigation
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:24 p.m.
It is highly relevant
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:24 p.m.
and cannot be struck
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:24 p.m.
well uhh
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:24 p.m.
whats the objection nick
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:24 p.m.
let me see
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:24 p.m.
He don't know
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:24 p.m.
HELP
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:24 p.m.
:ijbol:
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
brenda or pancakes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
one of u explain
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
how is arb relevant to my finding of fact
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
and how i come to that determination
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
i was just going to say
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
For one, it shows the procedural background that the plaintiff went through
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
they're irrelevant
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
No,
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
right but that isnt trial worthy
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
and more prejudical than probative
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
Let me finish
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
and also under Fed. R. Ev. 408; Fed. R. Civ. P. 68(b)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
let bro yap
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
hold on
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
settlement talks are not favored
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
or I'll be interrupted
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
yes
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:25 p.m.
that's okay
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:26 p.m.
in the south you get slapped for that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:26 p.m.
go pancakes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:26 p.m.
cmon i want to finish my show
mike_bnmike_bn
and how i come to that determination
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:26 p.m.
Well, they're statements by Chappie which was the primary witness other than the crime alt who started the complaint
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:26 p.m.
There are several considerations for the court to consider. (That cited federal rule does not apply, arbitration is not a settlement discussion)
BrendaBrenda
Well, they're statements by Chappie which was the primary witness other than the crime alt who started the complaint
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:26 p.m.
so u want to use chappie's statements in arb at trial
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:27 p.m.
this would be so much easier if you had your witnesses write affidavits
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:27 p.m.
smh
mike_bnmike_bn
so u want to use chappie's statements in arb at trial
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:27 p.m.
Since we're past the deposition-stage, we can just rely on what he said during the arb ticket
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:27 p.m.
And since he'll be testifying, there'll be no hearsay issue
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:28 p.m.
the exhibits are a series of questions pancakes asked to chappie in which the state did not cross-examine because settlement was denied
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:28 p.m.
For one, they are relevant because we are legally mandated to seek relief through the justice department before litigating in court. That alone is relevant, because it offers background to the court. What kind of background?

Arbitration allowed the defendants an opportunity to correct egregious errors in judgement, which created the tortuous liability being litigated. The arbitration messages are relevant, because as of present, they have refused to rectify their actions. The DOJ accepted that this case was complex in nature, and as such referred it to the civil courts.
NicklausNicklaus
the exhibits are a series of questions pancakes asked to chappie in which the state did not cross-examine because settlement was denied
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:28 p.m.
The state did cross examine
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:28 p.m.
silly billy
NicklausNicklaus
the exhibits are a series of questions pancakes asked to chappie in which the state did not cross-examine because settlement was denied
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:28 p.m.
And you'll have the opportunity to cross-examine at trial
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:28 p.m.
Where he'll be testifying
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:28 p.m.
so u want his arb ticket for purposes of possible impeachment?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:28 p.m.
Correct
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:28 p.m.
Yes
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:28 p.m.
His testimony directly shows negligence and intentionality(edited)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:29 p.m.
let me look at these exhibits
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:29 p.m.
They are a good read
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:29 p.m.
was he sworn in
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:29 p.m.
during any of this
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:29 p.m.
Don't think so
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:29 p.m.
I believe these are just statements
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:29 p.m.
I can't remember
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:29 p.m.
i can check quickly
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:29 p.m.
so these are out of court statements
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:29 p.m.
being used for the truth
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
i wouldnt consider arb a court
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
These pass an 803 exception
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
i know
mike_bnmike_bn
i wouldnt consider arb a court
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
Arbitration
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
But, if I may add, our State perjury statute, if I remember correctly, encompasses all statements made in the jurisdiction of the executive branch @mike_bn(edited)
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
is legally mandated
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
since the speaker is testifying to them
BrendaBrenda
But, if I may add, our State perjury statute, if I remember correctly, encompasses all statements made in the jurisdiction of the executive branch @mike_bn(edited)
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
It does
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
okay
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
ill allow it in
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
no he was not sworn in
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
BUT
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
but
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
objections are not waived
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:30 p.m.
as to any of the exhibits being entered into evidence
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:31 p.m.
additionally,
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:31 p.m.
they may only be admitted for the purposes of impeachment
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:31 p.m.
does this work
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:31 p.m.
i feel like this is a good middleground
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:31 p.m.
I don't think
mike_bnmike_bn
they may only be admitted for the purposes of impeachment
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:31 p.m.
So sort of like if it was a deposition
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:31 p.m.
sure
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:31 p.m.
u can say that
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:31 p.m.
I was going to raise an issue to your limitation of its use
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
because of how the ROE are structured
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
but I don't think we planned to use those exhibits
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
for anything other than
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
impeachment
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
yeah it makes both sides happy
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
okie dokie
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
you can introduce them as well to refresh the memory of the witness
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
OKAY
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
but
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
P-S
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
other witnesses cannot be questioned as to these exhibits
mike_bnmike_bn
you can introduce them as well to refresh the memory of the witness
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
perfect
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
that's all I need
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:32 p.m.
P-S @Nicklaus
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:33 p.m.
thats plaintiff L-O riggt
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:33 p.m.
right
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:33 p.m.
yeah so p-s
mike_bnmike_bn
thats plaintiff L-O riggt
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:33 p.m.
yes
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:33 p.m.
we're not open to pre-admission of p-s
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:33 p.m.
Can we at least head off an authentication battle
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:34 p.m.
oh p-o plaintiff?'
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:34 p.m.
Idc if you're gonna make an objection to its contents
NicklausNicklaus
we're not open to pre-admission of p-s
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:34 p.m.
Why not?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:34 p.m.
plaintiff p-o?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:34 p.m.
P-S
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:34 p.m.
p-s
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:34 p.m.
got it
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:34 p.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:34 p.m.
Written from my IPhone 16 Pro Max
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:34 p.m.
this was submitted by poop
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:35 p.m.
omg
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:35 p.m.
LOL
mike_bnmike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:35 p.m.
Can we just hold him in contempt
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:35 p.m.
This is only helping our case
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:35 p.m.
Exactly
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:35 p.m.
So I thank him for that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:35 p.m.
we will add him to the list for contempt
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:35 p.m.
I ask that he also be listed as a hostile witness
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:35 p.m.
yeah so ordered
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:35 p.m.
well is poop ur witness
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:35 p.m.
or defense
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
pretty sure
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
he is
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
a
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
poop is on both lists
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
defendant witness
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
Not on mine
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
brenda added
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
well hostile kinda moot u can ask leading anyways
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
I wanna be able to
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
be mean
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
sure lol
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
and make him shush
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
alr
NicklausNicklaus
poop is on both lists
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
Well, if you're not open to pre-admission of my investigative work then how are you adding Poop to your witness list :😭:
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:36 p.m.
p-s
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
i say we pre-admit p-s
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
Agreed
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
are they billys transactions
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
Yes
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
that is why
NicklausNicklaus
are they billys transactions
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
They are sales records of the shirt and pants owned by Billy
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
billy is listed as a witness
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
can pre-admit but billy still must authenticate
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
Sure
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
yeah that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
if billy does not authenticate they will be removed
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
fine with me
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:37 p.m.
also
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
We got the screenshots from him
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
i want objections waived
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
except to procedural ones
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
so no hearsay or
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
regarding which exhibits
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
p-s
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
That's cool with me
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
no hearsay objections or
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
yeah i dont plan on making heresy objections
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
ok hearsay is waived
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
Exhibit T
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
last one on my list
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:38 p.m.
then we go to defense
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:39 p.m.
that message was made by jarocycle holy guacamole
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:39 p.m.
i mean
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:39 p.m.
that is hearsay
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:39 p.m.
don't even try to say it's irrelevant
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:39 p.m.
It passes an 803 exception test
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:39 p.m.
as well
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:39 p.m.
what is the exception
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:39 p.m.
let me pull it up
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:39 p.m.
i had it bookmarked
mike_bnmike_bn
if billy does not authenticate they will be removed
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:40 p.m.
Also, what if he's a no-show?
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:40 p.m.
I'm unsure whether his testimony is necessary
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:40 p.m.
Since these are records
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:40 p.m.
if hes a no-show we will handle it then
Deleted UserDeleted User
It passes an 803 exception test
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:40 p.m.
im going to assume its public record
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:40 p.m.
If defense doesn't raise an authentication objection, then his testimony isn't needed
NicklausNicklaus
im going to assume its public record
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:40 p.m.
yeah, it's something like that
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
I know for a FACT
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
that this screenshot
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
passes 803
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
because I researched when I got it from brenda
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
my issue is the contents
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
it seems more prejudicial than probative
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
Plaintiff asserts
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
that there is a history of government official impersonation
mike_bnmike_bn
it seems more prejudicial than probative
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
Which?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
T
BrendaBrenda
Which?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
the announcement
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
in t
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
ok i cant even find this message
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
Brenda.....
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
!
mike_bnmike_bn
the announcement
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
oh, about the impersonation
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:41 p.m.
of the
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:42 p.m.
if doj deleted that announcement
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:42 p.m.
how is this relevant
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:42 p.m.
I'm coming for souls
Deleted UserDeleted User
if doj deleted that announcement
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:42 p.m.
idk where it is
mike_bnmike_bn
Click to see attachment.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:42 p.m.
While we may not attribute it directly to Diamond, I think it is probative in the sense that it proves there is a recurring issue with impersonations in Mayflower
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:42 p.m.
uhh
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:42 p.m.
And that it is easily done
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:42 p.m.
^^
BrendaBrenda
While we may not attribute it directly to Diamond, I think it is probative in the sense that it proves there is a recurring issue with impersonations in Mayflower
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
well how is this issue relevant
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
omg
mike_bnmike_bn
well how is this issue relevant
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
Because Tactical was impersonated
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
i think theres a speeding issue in florida
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
i cant go introduce news articles about speeders
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
the fact that a lot of murders happen in mayflower doesnt make that record relevant in a murder trial
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
listen how i view this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
is if the impersonator saw this,
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
and continued
mike_bnmike_bn
i cant go introduce news articles about speeders
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
You do raise a good point, but we have to remember this isn't a criminal trial, and Diamond is not on trial here
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
sure it may be relevant
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
The standard is much lower in civil trials
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
and it may speak to the intent
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:43 p.m.
If this was a criminal trial, then I'd see the issue. But this is civil court
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:44 p.m.
o know
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:44 p.m.
i am aware
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:44 p.m.
but the relevancy is still the same
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:44 p.m.
this passes both 803 tests, and Fed rules of civ pro
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:44 p.m.
i dont see how it is relevant
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:44 p.m.
Here is what I offer
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:44 p.m.
-she ponders.-
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:44 p.m.
our hearsay rules are so bad
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:44 p.m.
LOL
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:44 p.m.
the impersonation was so bad that a high-ranking government official had to notify constitutunents so that there was not panic or confusion
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
Which directly shows a persistent and immediate issue of impersonation
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
the same type, which we argue occured in this particular case
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
and that still doesnt make it more probable that u were impersonated pal
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
im struggling to see its relevance
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
i dont see it as relevant
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
heres what i will do
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
pancakes is not the president of the union of columbia!
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
im going to rule on this when it comes to trial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
objection, how do you know for sure!
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
i want to see your arguments then
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
That's fine
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
because its not a major piece of evidence
Deleted UserDeleted User
objection, how do you know for sure!
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:45 p.m.
objection assuming facts not in evidence!
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
if i strike it you will be fine
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
but ill reserve judgement
NicklausNicklaus
objection assuming facts not in evidence!
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
objection, assuming you have the aura to make that kind of claim
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
ok zip it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
cmon
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
my laptop almost dead
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
@mike_bn I think the Court can just take judicial notice of the fact that, on Roblox, anyone can impersonate another person with zero effort
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
The announcement isn't really important
BrendaBrenda
@mike_bn I think the Court can just take judicial notice of the fact that, on Roblox, anyone can impersonate another person with zero effort
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
i will stipulate this as a fact
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
Bet
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
that's what we were gonna use it for
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:46 p.m.
And just to reiterate
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:47 p.m.
we never got a full unedited clip of the video of the shooting
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:47 p.m.
- Court acknowledges the ease when it comes to impersonating others on ROBLOX.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:47 p.m.
I just want that at the forefront of the court's thoughts
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:47 p.m.
ok
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:47 p.m.
as it considers the evidence
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:47 p.m.
Yeah, we will be asking the Court to draw adverse inferences against Diamond, since he is the complainant in all this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:47 p.m.
@Brenda @Deleted User @Nicklaus are we doing anything else with plaintiff discovery
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:47 p.m.
also u have duplicate witnesses
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:47 p.m.
No, and I just reviewed the defense's discovery
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
lets figure out who is calling who
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
Hold on
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
our discovery is just the full picture of pancakes
BrendaBrenda
EXHIBIT U We hereby admit this video into evidence showing that DiamondKreekKiIIer, RobbIe_DumbIedore, and PoopMentality are friends on Roblox(edited)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
@mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
There's this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
ok u want me to rule on this
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
Sure
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
i say unless defense waives
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
get it authenticated
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
Bruh
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
it's literally
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
the roblox app
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
Yea, it's on Mobile
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
Can't really be fabricated
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
defense
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
what is ur stance
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:48 p.m.
waive
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:49 p.m.
We ain't making this crap up
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:49 p.m.
okay it is preadmitted with authenticity objections waived
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:49 p.m.
I am not a software engineer
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:49 p.m.
Yo I assume brenda did not edit her video
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:49 p.m.
correct
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:49 p.m.
Okay, I see I'm listed as a witness in defense's discovery
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:49 p.m.
but she is quite the contemptor :😔:
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:49 p.m.
and I have no problem with that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:49 p.m.
should i do heads and tails
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:50 p.m.
to distribute copy witnesses
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:50 p.m.
Let's just get there when we get there
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:50 p.m.
only chappie is duplicate
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:51 p.m.
@Deleted User @Brenda @Nicklaus who wants him for direct
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:51 p.m.
we gotta finish this soon
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:51 p.m.
i have to pee
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:51 p.m.
I'll take him for direct, but I'm of course reserving the right to call him back if the defense tries anything shady
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:51 p.m.
Ok dude
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:52 p.m.
Me!?
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:52 p.m.
Yeah, we'll probably recall and cross, etc.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:52 p.m.
u want to reserve re-direct?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:52 p.m.
to be fair
mike_bnmike_bn
u want to reserve re-direct?
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:52 p.m.
Yes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:52 p.m.
k re-direct reserved as to plaintiff witness chappie
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
Other than that I think we've hit everything
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
ok defense exhibits
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
is amitBX on the witness list?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
defendants
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
I can't wait to cross them
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
this is gonna be so fun
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
@Nicklaus
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
cases never go to trial
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
@Nicklaus HEKLO
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
let go
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
Hi
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
u want anything of urs
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:53 p.m.
talked about
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:54 p.m.
not unless pancakes wanna pre admit anything
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:54 p.m.
but i think everything is touchjed on in his
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:54 p.m.
We've essentially covered everything
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:54 p.m.
discoveyr
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:54 p.m.
I think
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:54 p.m.
@mike_bn I'd like to start trial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:54 p.m.
today
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:54 p.m.
continuous discord
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:55 p.m.
@mike_bn This needs to be stricken
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:55 p.m.
That's an L and not an i
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:55 p.m.
Robbe_DumbLedore is an 8-year-old Venezuelan kid who plays Adopt Me
Deleted UserDeleted User
continuous discord
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:55 p.m.
its in person
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:55 p.m.
i cannot do discord trials
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:55 p.m.
they take
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:55 p.m.
years
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
Witnesses decide to go on walks in the middle of their testimony
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
In person?
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
id prefer discord
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
our entire case
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
is like
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
i dont think roblox ever gon work with my activity
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
digital exhibits
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
If you wanna do via discord sure but I’m setting time limits on testimony
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
And if you’re witness doesn’t respond any a lot of time I’m kicking them off
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
That's fine with me
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
Because what happens is testimony for something as small as authenticity will take a week
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:56 p.m.
yeah
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
Unless we do it on Discord and Roblox at the same time
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
Brenda
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
But that gets complicated
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
NO
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
brenda
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
shut the fuck up
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
HELP
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
did not need to saty that
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
help
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
you made me cuss on sunday
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
Witnesses are also under oath, going to promise that they will remain in the chat room until they are dismissed or we enter or recess
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
Sorry, it makes no sense. I’m using speech to text right now.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
are you peeing
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
while in court
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
right now
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
Yeah so
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:57 p.m.
I'd liek to do trial over discord
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:58 p.m.
But we been sat here an hour
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:58 p.m.
No, I’m taking a shit
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:58 p.m.
.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:58 p.m.
Why don't we say
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:58 p.m.
Start continuous trial today at 7:00 PM EST
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:58 p.m.
I’m gonna give you rules for discord trial
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:58 p.m.
That works for me
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:58 p.m.
im not going to be on discord consistently after like
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:58 p.m.
uhh
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:58 p.m.
6:00pm est
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:58 p.m.
Then why don’t we start with openings now?
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
i got stuff to do
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
no
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
And we will do testimony starting tomorrow
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
I'm not ready to start
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
and I really gotta use the restroom
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
OK
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
can we figure out scheduling tomorro wwhtn
mike_bnmike_bn
And if you’re witness doesn’t respond any a lot of time I’m kicking them off
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
Can we, like, not do that for hostile witnesses? They could just ignore to refuse to testify
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
Or, at least, Billy. Since he works for the MSP
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
didnt billy willingly give u transaction logs
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
:😭:
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 01:59 p.m.
If they refuse to testify, I could just hit it with contempt
NicklausNicklaus
didnt billy willingly give u transaction logs
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:00 p.m.
yep
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:00 p.m.
Multiple charges of them
NicklausNicklaus
didnt billy willingly give u transaction logs
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 02:00 p.m.
Yeah, but when trial starts and AmitBX starts threatening him with his job
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:00 p.m.
I’ll give them so much prison
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:00 p.m.
Oh one more thing
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:00 p.m.
I think it's good to set the expectations now
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 02:00 p.m.
Brenda stop with ur fantasies sigh
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 02:00 p.m.
No one job is at stake except pancakes :😈:
NicklausNicklaus
Brenda stop with ur fantasies sigh
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 02:00 p.m.
No cause mama knows how ur little BDSM department works
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 02:00 p.m.
Anyway, let's get this started
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:01 p.m.
As the court is empowered to do, under title 5 of the MSC.

We are moving that the two defendants be terminated from their employment from the Mayflower State Police, should the court issue affirmative judgements in favor of the Plaintiff.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:01 p.m.
We wanted to get that squared away now
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:01 p.m.
cc: @mike_bn
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:02 p.m.
Can you cite me a law that lets me do that?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:02 p.m.
sure
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 02:02 p.m.
yeah thats not gonna
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:02 p.m.
I also cited it
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:02 p.m.
in the complaint
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:02 p.m.
I believe
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:04 p.m.
let me look
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:04 p.m.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:04 p.m.
Deleted UserDeleted User
Click to see attachment.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:04 p.m.
Last sentence of 3106.1
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 02:04 p.m.
if i may
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 02:05 p.m.
the alleged illegal action here is the termination. the court may order the reversal of that termination
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
yeah idk about that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
here tactical
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
if u can cite me caselaw which supports my right to do that
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
Respectfully
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
ill consider it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
wait
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
The statute clearly
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
gives the power to do that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
but thats only after my factual finding
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
ah
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
ahaha
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
and i dont think any precedent in ro-law supports what pancakes is trying to do here
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
zip zip
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
even in like og and noahs and stuff
mike_bnmike_bn
if u can cite me caselaw which supports my right to do that
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
<3106.1 allows the Court to enter any punishment it deems just, doesn't it? It literally skirts the normally applicable canon of construction that the remedies listed in the statute are conclusive.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
lets not jump the gun here
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
once i enter my finding of fact
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:06 p.m.
ill do a hearing on
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
the degree of punishment
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
Fair enough
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
this gives u time to
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
research
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
and convince me
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
Sounds good to me
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
but for now
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
wanted to put it out there, that this is what we are going for
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
ill be on the side of caution
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
We will be preparing a memorandum of law once that time comes
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
@mike_bn Opening arguments at 7:00 PM, and continuous from there?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
amazing and defense feel free to prepare your own in response
Deleted UserDeleted User
@mike_bn Opening arguments at 7:00 PM, and continuous from there?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:07 p.m.
ill open the door for openings now
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:08 p.m.
ill close it tommorow at 7:00 PM EST
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:08 p.m.
this gives u all plenty of time
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:08 p.m.
Okie doke
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-23 02:08 p.m.
:👍:
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:08 p.m.
before i open it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:08 p.m.
let me give discord trial rules
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-23 02:08 p.m.
I really gotta pee now
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:08 p.m.
go go
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 02:08 p.m.
Why are male bladders so extramagnanimous
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:10 p.m.
# DISCORD TRIAL RULES #

1. Attorneys will treat the chat as a real lego courtroom. Cross talk from hereon out is prohibited. Unless court is recessed, counsel and witnesses shall treat all messages sent here as if they are speaking in open court.

2. Witnesses may only be questioned by each party for a period of 48 hours. This clock is paused when the court enters recess.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:10 p.m.
# STIPULATIONS AND AGREEMENTS#

- DiamondCreekKiller is to be treated as a hostile witness.
- DiamondCreekKiller’s non-compliance with court orders can be used against them.
- Parties may not call or introduce witnesses as experts.
- Plaintiff exhibits L-O are only to be used for the cross examination of Chappie, and may only be used on this witness to refresh their memory or to impeach them.
- PoopMentality to be treated as a hostile witness.
- Exhibits P-S are pre-admitted, hearsay objections are waived.
- Plaintiff exhibit U pre-admitted, authenticity objections waived.
- Court acknowledges the ease when it comes to impersonating others on ROBLOX.
- Chappie is plaintiff witness, plaintiff reserve right to re-cross after direct examination.
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mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:11 p.m.
The court is now in session to hear opening statements in this matter. The court duly recognizes the parties preliminary agreements and will honor such.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 02:11 p.m.
@Deleted User @Brenda Plaintiff has until Feb 24 at or before 7:00 PM EST to make their opening statements.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 02:33 p.m.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 02:33 p.m.
This was sent to me by DiamondKreekKiIIer
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-23 02:34 p.m.
We move to hold him in contempt of court and will be asking the Court to draw adverse inferences against him and his complaint
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-23 03:23 p.m.
DiamondKreekKiller is found in contempt, they will be remanded to the custody of the Sheriff indefinitely until they fully comply with this courts orders
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-24 01:10 p.m.
Your Honor, and may it please the Court,

4 MSC 7 § 1801 defines arbitrary punishment as "punisment with no factual backing."

To prove that Tactical_Pancakes' discharge from the MSP was lawful, the agency has to show that its decision was factually correct--that it had "factual backing." It was not.

The decision to discharge Tactical relied on a video by DiamondKreekKiIIer--who has a history of impersonating MSP officers--showing himself being shot by a person wearing Tactical's outfit. This person is one of Diamond's friends--Robbe_Dumbiedore or PoopMentality--who also have a history of impersonating MSP officers, usually together with Diamond.
More importantly, sales records from the MSP shirt and pants show that Diamond, Robbe, and Poop all bought the uniform 1 day before the incident.

We will prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that--

* On January 5, 2025, Tactical_Pancakes was reported by DiamondKreekKiIIer;

* DiamondKreekKiIIer has a history of impersonating MSP officers, and after Tactical was terminated, Diamond was seen impersonating another MSP officer;

* Diamond's report relied on a video he filmed on January 5, 2025, showing himself being killed by a person dressed as Tactical;

* This person is one of Diamond's friends (Robbe or Poop);

* Diamond, Robbe, and Poop bought the MSP uniform on January 4, 2025--exactly 1 day before the video was taken.

* Diamond, Robbe, and Poop are now trolling the Court with fake submission, ignoring the Court's orders and subpoenas, and refusing to comply.

* The video does not identify Tactical; the shooter's username is not shown at any point.

* TFC Chappie--who testified during the investigation--never stated that Tactical was the shooter, but the MSP fabricated and/or omitted parts of Chappie's testimony to support that narrative.

* Tactical has 2 alibis: (1) he was last seen at a MSP base far away from the shooting; and (2) he was at work IRL during the shooting itself.

@mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-24 01:10 p.m.
(cc: @Deleted User @Nicklaus )
BrendaBrenda
Your Honor, and may it please the Court, 4 MSC 7 § 1801 defines arbitrary punishment as "punisment with no factual backing." To prove that Tactical_Pancakes' discharge from the M...
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-24 01:19 p.m.
* Additionally, Chappie informed the MSP that there were multiple impersonators at the time.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-24 01:26 p.m.
Put simply, Tactical--who is an experienced attorney, a professor of law at MSU, and, up until this wrongful discharge, a loyal police officer--was impersonated and punished for it by MSP IA who had no reason to believe that he was guilty (and every reason to believe he was impersonated).
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-24 01:27 p.m.
Also the Dean of the Law School**
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 03:47 p.m.
@Nicklaus
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 03:47 p.m.
ur turn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-24 04:12 p.m.
@mike_bn Your honor, we'd like to make a motion at this time.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-24 05:01 p.m.
It’s very important
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-24 05:28 p.m.
@mike_bn
BrendaBrenda
@mike_bn Your honor, we'd like to make a motion at this time.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 05:42 p.m.
wait
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 05:42 p.m.
until 7
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 06:59 p.m.
@Nicklaus i guess u waive opening
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 06:59 p.m.
okay before we do anything
mike_bnmike_bn
DiamondKreekKiller is found in contempt, they will be remanded to the custody of the Sheriff indefinitely until they fully comply with this courts orders
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 06:59 p.m.
notate this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 06:59 p.m.
i am entering it in game
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:00 p.m.
Written from my IPhone 16 Pro Max
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:00 p.m.
this is also poops video
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:00 p.m.
he will be held in contempt and imprisoned
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:00 p.m.
i will submit an order to them to produce the unedited video
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:01 p.m.
@Brenda @Deleted User
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-24 07:01 p.m.
Thank you
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:01 p.m.
so poop and diamond
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:01 p.m.
in contempt
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:01 p.m.
imprisoned indef until they comply
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:01 p.m.
cc @intentionless @diamondkreekkiiier
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:02 p.m.
@Brenda what about the 3rd guy
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:02 p.m.
was he ordered to produce
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-24 07:02 p.m.
Robbe_Dumbiedore has also failed to comply
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-24 07:02 p.m.
Yes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:02 p.m.
he was ordered to produce physical material right
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:02 p.m.
and failed to do so
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-24 07:02 p.m.
Yes, he was ordered to produce his inventory and item transactions
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:02 p.m.
amazing
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:02 p.m.
we will throw him into the bucket too
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:02 p.m.
ill make a ruling of this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:03 p.m.
through bot
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:03 p.m.
also if u want to send them a letter
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:07 p.m.
@robbel_dumblegoon
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:07 p.m.
all 3 have been give 10k minutes
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-24 07:08 p.m.
@mike_bn can @Brenda do her motion now
mike_bnmike_bn
@Nicklaus i guess u waive opening
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-24 07:08 p.m.
what
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-24 07:08 p.m.
its been 5 hours since their opening statement
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-24 07:08 p.m.
i am at a basketball game
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mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:14 p.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:15 p.m.
ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:15 p.m.
@Nicklaus do u want to give opening?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:15 p.m.
if so
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:15 p.m.
answer me this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 07:15 p.m.
do you content that the factual allegations made by plaintiff are untrue
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 10:43 p.m.
@Nicklaus
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 10:43 p.m.
ok you forfeit your opening
mike_bnmike_bn
do you content that the factual allegations made by plaintiff are untrue
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-24 10:44 p.m.
answer this
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-24 10:48 p.m.
yes?
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-24 10:49 p.m.
what factual allegations
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-24 10:52 p.m.
why is giving an opening conditioned on answering this
NicklausNicklaus
what factual allegations
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 07:12 a.m.
Check chamber-chat
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 09:33 a.m.
@Nicklaus @Deleted User @Brenda ok trial
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 09:33 a.m.
timeframe?
mike_bnmike_bn
@Nicklaus @Deleted User @Brenda ok trial
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 10:14 a.m.
We can begin today
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 10:14 a.m.
If the defense is ready
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 01:06 p.m.
@Nicklaus
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 04:58 p.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted UserDeleted User
@mike_bn
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:12 p.m.
well the defense needs to lock in
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:12 p.m.
@Nicklaus re assign if u cant pay more than a few seconds a day of attention to this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:13 p.m.
Feel free to call your first witness I’ll add them and swear them in when I get to work
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:13 p.m.
I mean this is getting ridiculous. It’s almost as if we have continually provided the court with merit to our allegations, and instead of actually litigating, the defense intentionally delays proceedings.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:13 p.m.
This has been going on for almost a month and a half now, due entirely to the defense not being receptive
mike_bnmike_bn
Feel free to call your first witness I’ll add them and swear them in when I get to work
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:13 p.m.
I believe my co counsel will be starting that in the next few hours
mike_bnmike_bn
@Nicklaus re assign if u cant pay more than a few seconds a day of attention to this
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 05:15 p.m.
there’s no one to reassign to
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 05:15 p.m.
add @dero please
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:15 p.m.
There are several attorneys in the SHO
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 05:15 p.m.
he’ll take over
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:15 p.m.
SHO
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:15 p.m.
SGO
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:15 p.m.
If he’s taking over
NicklausNicklaus
he’ll take over
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 05:15 p.m.
Does Derogatoryyy work for the OSG?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:15 p.m.
I have so many questions
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 05:15 p.m.
If not, he's not authorized to handle civil matters for the Government.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 05:16 p.m.
dero works for me
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:16 p.m.
That didn’t answer the question
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:16 p.m.
Is he in the SGO
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 05:16 p.m.
????????
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:16 p.m.
It’s an incredibly simple question
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:17 p.m.
The answer is no
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:17 p.m.
@mike_bn I ask the court to deny the request to change defense counsel
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:17 p.m.
I further ask the court to either re-entertain our motion for summary judgement, or direct the defense to actively participate in the litigation.
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 05:17 p.m.
you can’t have it both ways pancakes
NicklausNicklaus
you can’t have it both ways pancakes
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:17 p.m.
It’s the law
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:18 p.m.
stop
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:18 p.m.
everyone
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 05:18 p.m.
dero is authorized to represent the government
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:18 p.m.
okay
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:18 p.m.
you two are fined 1000 each for cross talking
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:18 p.m.
and clogging this up
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:18 p.m.
Your honor we had the floor
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:18 p.m.
I don’t mind discussion with the court, but council can’t talk among themselves
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:19 p.m.
I made this very clear when we first began trial
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:19 p.m.
go to chamber-chat
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:26 p.m.
@honkhonk u can add
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:26 p.m.
derog appointed as defense co counsel
honkhonkhonkhonk used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-25 05:27 p.m.
Case Modified
@honkhonk has added @dero to the case channel.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:32 p.m.
@mike_bn Can we proceed
Deleted UserDeleted User
@mike_bn Can we proceed
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:34 p.m.
yep
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 05:34 p.m.
@mike_bn yes pls I'm ready
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:35 p.m.
who is first
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:35 p.m.
on chopping block
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 05:35 p.m.
@Brenda Has it all ready
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 05:36 p.m.
Give me a minute!
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 05:37 p.m.
We'd like to start with Chappie342.

@mike_bn
mike_bnmike_bn used
/add
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-02-25 05:38 p.m.
Case Modified
@mike_bn has added @chappie342 to the case channel.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:43 p.m.
@chappie342 Do you swear that the testimony you will provide will be the true and accurate under the penalties of perjury
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 05:52 p.m.
oh hi
mike_bnmike_bn
@chappie342 Do you swear that the testimony you will provide will be the true and accurate under the penalties of perjury
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 05:52 p.m.
I do
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 05:56 p.m.
@Brenda @Nicklaus @Brenda hes yours
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 05:56 p.m.
Please state your username for the record
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:01 p.m.
chappie342
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:02 p.m.
What is your current position in the Mayflower State Police?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:03 p.m.
Er well I got demoted due to a transfer in divisions so Im back down to a Trooper now
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:03 p.m.
What was your previous position?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:04 p.m.
Master Trooper
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:05 p.m.
How long have you been employed by the MSP?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:05 p.m.
since the 24th of august 2024
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:05 p.m.
clark release date
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:06 p.m.
And, as a Trooper, what are your primary duties and responsibilities?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:06 p.m.
Im more or less just a pilot now under the state aviation division
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:07 p.m.
Assist with pursuits from an aerial view, provide information, etc
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:07 p.m.
Let me rephrase. On the 9th of January, 2025, when you were Trooper First Class, what were your duties and responsibilities?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:08 p.m.
Ah
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:08 p.m.
I was a State Protections Service Coordinator
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:08 p.m.
I was responsible with attending protections events and ensuring everything went smoothly
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:08 p.m.
As well as coordinating protections certifications courses for troopers to obtain their protections certifications
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:09 p.m.
Are you familiar with the internal investigation against Tactical_Pancakes?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:10 p.m.
Yes
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:10 p.m.
I would say so
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:10 p.m.
Were you involved in any way in this investigation?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:11 p.m.
I was placed on administrative leave by Internal affairs pending an investigation for violation of code of conduct - "failure to report" and shortly contacted by Investigator g_dsteel at the time for an interview
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:11 p.m.
I originally expected the Interview to be about something else however it was this whole pancakes situation
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:13 p.m.
Internal Affairs had placed me on AL as a result of me being a direct witness to the situation and not reporting or saying anything to them, however at the time I saw no misconduct as I had stated to them in the interview with Investigator g_dsteel and chose to carry on with my protections duties as normal.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:13 p.m.
Were you asked to provide any statements or information as part of the investigation?
BrendaBrenda
Were you asked to provide any statements or information as part of the investigation?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:14 p.m.
I was asked to give an elaboration of my perspective of the whole incident of mr tactical_pancakes allegedly shooting the complainant of the Internal affairs report for no reason
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:14 p.m.
to sum it up
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:15 p.m.
How did you provide your statements—verbally, in writing, or through some other means?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:17 p.m.
In writing through direct messages with the Investigator
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:18 p.m.
During this investigation, were you shown any material or evidence against Tactical_Pancakes?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:18 p.m.
Lemme pull up the dms rq just to see what I got sent for the evidence again
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:20 p.m.
Ok yea
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:20 p.m.
I was sent a picture of an avatar resembling that of tactical_pancakes' one and I believe the original youtube video the complainant submitted
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 06:20 p.m.
Objection
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:21 p.m.
Were you shown the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE1VJaE_OCA
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:21 p.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:21 p.m.
(Exhibit F)
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:21 p.m.
That one I believe
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:21 p.m.
Have you reviewed the video?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:21 p.m.
Yea
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:22 p.m.
Paise
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:22 p.m.
@Nicklaus what did u object to
BrendaBrenda
During this investigation, were you shown any material or evidence against Tactical_Pancakes? @chappie342
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 06:23 p.m.
The answer to this
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 06:23 p.m.
The witness can't look back to his direct messages to answer the question
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:24 p.m.
May I respond?
@mike_bn
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:24 p.m.
ofc
NicklausNicklaus
The witness can't look back to his direct messages to answer the question
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:25 p.m.
Yea the whole thing took place in a group chat and I remembered that after I went to look for them
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:25 p.m.
I found an image
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:25 p.m.
of the DMs
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:25 p.m.
of me and Investigator steel
mike_bnmike_bn
ofc
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:25 p.m.
I see nothing wrong with him refreshing his memory.

Even if he didn't check his DMs, he could just say "yes, I did receive evidence" and I would have refreshed his memory by sending the video.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:26 p.m.
If the Court strikes that last part of his testimony, it doesn't really change anything.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:26 p.m.
@Nicklaus what objection is this
mike_bnmike_bn
@Nicklaus what objection is this
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 06:27 p.m.
The witness is not depending on his knowledge. He's using his direct messages to refresh his memory when they're not admitted into evidence.
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 06:28 p.m.
They are. They were pre admitted. By you.
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:28 p.m.
?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:28 p.m.
ok
Deleted UserDeleted User
They are. They were pre admitted. By you.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:28 p.m.
stop
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:28 p.m.
@chappie342 dont speak
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:28 p.m.
no cross talk
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 06:28 p.m.
I’m co counsel, your honor
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:28 p.m.
dont matter
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:28 p.m.
stop it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:28 p.m.
ok are the messages in evidence
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 06:29 p.m.
The entirety of the IA interview messages with Chappie are literally on the Defense’s discovery
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-25 06:29 p.m.
Like, this is a non-issue
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:29 p.m.
ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:29 p.m.
overruled continue
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:29 p.m.
perfect
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:29 p.m.
Have you reviewed the video?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:30 p.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:30 p.m.
Can you describe what the video shows?
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 06:31 p.m.
Sorry
chappie342chappie342
Yea the whole thing took place in a group chat and I remembered that after I went to look for them
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 06:31 p.m.
What question is this answering
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-25 06:31 p.m.
We move to strike
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:31 p.m.
what
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:31 p.m.
so striken
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:31 p.m.
@chappie342 if an objection is made
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:31 p.m.
dont speak
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:32 p.m.
my bad
BrendaBrenda
Can you describe what the video shows?
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:32 p.m.
This question is withdrawn
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 06:32 p.m.
np
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:33 p.m.
Does the video depict an individual killing DiamondKreekKiiier?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:33 p.m.
I mean from what I can see yea
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:33 p.m.
Is this individual dressed similarly to Tactical_Pancakes?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:33 p.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:34 p.m.
Other than their avatar, is there any identifying information shown in the video ascertaining the identity of the individual?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:35 p.m.
I dont see a username for the individual in-question so no
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:35 p.m.
all you really have to go off of is just their avatar
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:35 p.m.
no other identifying things
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:36 p.m.
Were you asked about the video during the investigation?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:36 p.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:40 p.m.
@chappie342 Do you recognize this conversation?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:40 p.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:40 p.m.
(Exhibit A)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:41 p.m.
Does this photo fairly and accurately depict conversation between you and the investigator during the investigation?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:41 p.m.
I believe so yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:42 p.m.
During this conversation, does the investigator ask you "Who would you recognize this as?" with, attached, a photo of the shooter from the video (Exhibit F)(edited)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:42 p.m.
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:42 p.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:43 p.m.
And do you state in response that: "it could be anyone considering his belt badge is not visible from a distance, being covered by his r21"
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:44 p.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:44 p.m.
Did you also state "We've had multiple fugitives using our protections uniforms at events to try [to] get close to the governor"
@chappie342
(edited)
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:45 p.m.
yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:46 p.m.
When you said fugitives use your protections uniforms at events, do these fugitives impersonate officers of the Mayflower State Police?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:47 p.m.
They were mainly attempting to impersonate members of the State Protective Service wearing the same issued uniforms at the time
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:47 p.m.
Specifically those troopers who were assigned to close protections details of the governor
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:48 p.m.
Does Tactical_Pancakes fall under that category?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:48 p.m.
Yes
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-25 06:48 p.m.
mr Tactical_Pancakes was wearing the same uniform and falls under the same category of being a member of the State Protective service so I would be inclined to agree
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:52 p.m.
This is an extract from the video (Exhibit F)
@chappie342
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:53 p.m.
This photo is of DiamondKreekKiiier who filmed the video
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:53 p.m.
Do you recognize the uniform DiamondKreekKiiier is wearing in the video?
@chappie342
dero
dero 2025-02-25 06:53 p.m.
I have an objection to the relevance of this whole impersonation thing. What does the attire of the complainant bearing similarities to a protection agent have to do with the allegations of the complainee shooting him in cold blood?
dero
dero 2025-02-25 06:53 p.m.
@mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:54 p.m.
@chappie342 Refrain from answering until the objection is ruled on
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 06:55 p.m.
May I respond to the objection?
@mike_bn
BrendaBrenda
May I respond to the objection? @mike_bn
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 07:33 p.m.
sure
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 07:33 p.m.
sorry im at work guys
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 07:52 p.m.
We would submit that the issue is extremely relevant.

"Evidence is relevant if it has any tendency to make a fact more or less probable than it would be without the evidence, and the fact is a consequence in deciding the actions."
Mayfl. R. Evid. 4

My client was impersonated in a group effort by DiamondKreekKiiier and his friends.

We need to be able to prove that Diamond is an impersonator to prove that my client was actually impersonated; and that fact is material because it would effectively resolve the underlying inquiry in this case--whether my client is innocent.

Additionally, the defense has waived their right to object. We've submitted plenty of evidence on the issue of my client's impersonation during the early, discovery stages of litgiation; the defense raised no objections. The Court even pre-admitted Exhibit U--proving Diamond's affiliation with Tactical's impersonator(s)--and the defense, again, did not object. The Court also pre-admitted Exhibits P-S of the sales records from the MSP uniform--again, the defense did not object.

The law is clear that they cannot do so now.

@mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-25 07:55 p.m.
If they seriously thought it was irrelevant, they could have--and would have--filed a motion to suppress or strike the evidence.

On the contrary, their own discovery disclosures includes the impersonators as lay witnesses. They've effectively admitted that it's relevant.
dero
dero 2025-02-25 08:09 p.m.
You're speculating when you draw into conclusion that there was some big impersonation scheme. The video shows this DiamondKreekKiller guy in a protective suit. Whether the complainee was impersonating an officer is completely irrelevant in a dispute about the finding of a blatant killing by Internal Affairs. The entire idea that this was a big planned group effort is, again, pure speculation and the line of questioning clearly is not for the purpose of probing the witness for more information but for the purpose of applying this scheme.
dero
dero 2025-02-25 08:10 p.m.
And so this is not relevant to the actual dispute because it does not relate as to whether or not the force was excessive and to the identity of the plaintiff which is also in dispute.
dero
dero 2025-02-25 08:11 p.m.
You are trying to create a narrative that just is not probable.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 11:10 p.m.
overruled
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-25 11:10 p.m.
continue
BrendaBrenda
This is an extract from the video (Exhibit F) @chappie342
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 03:45 a.m.
Do you recognize the uniform DiamondKreekKiiier is wearing in the video?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 04:35 a.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 04:35 a.m.
What is it?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 04:36 a.m.
Well it's the standard and original protections uniform given to all Troopers of the state police
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 04:36 a.m.
Anyone can use it so long as it's only used for it's intended purpose of protections
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 04:37 a.m.
(Let the record reflect that the defense has admitted, in their Answer to the Complaint, that Diamond was, in fact, impersonating MSP)(edited)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 04:38 a.m.
On the day of the video, were there other impersonators in the server?
@chappie342
BrendaBrenda
On the day of the video, were there other impersonators in the server? @chappie342
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 04:54 a.m.
Withdrawn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 04:54 a.m.
Have you had any past experiences with DiamondKreekKiIIer?
@chappie342
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 04:54 a.m.
You can just answer this yes/no
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:06 a.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:06 a.m.
During the arbitration of this case, did you make any statements?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:07 a.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:07 a.m.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:07 a.m.
Does this image fairly and accurately depict some of the statements you made during arbitration?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:29 a.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:30 a.m.
During arbitration, did you state, in substantially similar form, the following:

"DiamondKreekKiIIer is notorious amongst officers in Clark county for the sheer havoc caused by his presence, I believe that it's safe to say he's a fugitive anyoune could recognize as soon as they come within range of his username."

@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:31 a.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:31 a.m.
During arbitration, did you state, in substantially similar form, the following:

"I've come into contact with DiamondKreekKiIIer on multiple occassions, including protections events where he made use of the same protections suit and black cascade with tinted windows in an attempt to give off the illusion that it's a MSP protections cascade glencoe"

@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:31 a.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:33 a.m.
During arbitration, were you asked whether there were other impersonators in the server?

@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:34 a.m.
I strongly believe so and even if I wasn't It was still mentioned that there was more than one impersonator
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:35 a.m.
And did you reply, in substantially similar form, the following:

"Yes, [there was] a total of 3, DiamondKreekKiIIer being the one driving a black cascade and making use of jerry bombs and the others driving other vehicles however still in suits"

@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:45 a.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:45 a.m.
Are the statements you made in arbitration true and accurate to the best of your knowledge, information, and belief?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:45 a.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:48 a.m.
https://gyazo.com/ebac0fad57d0d7af9eb8c9da34ccc5c9

This is Exhibit R in our discovery
@chappie342
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:48 a.m.
This is a picture of DiamondKreekKiiier's avatar.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:48 a.m.
Do you recognize the avatar?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:50 a.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:50 a.m.
Where have you first seen it?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:50 a.m.
Sorry if my responses are delayed I'm in and out of my classes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:51 a.m.
No worries
BrendaBrenda
Where have you first seen it?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:51 a.m.
On the day of January the 5th
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:51 a.m.
Same day as the incident
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:56 a.m.
This is an excerpt from Exhibit F (Timestamp 1:36)

@chappie342
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:56 a.m.
Is that you to the left
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:56 a.m.
Looks like me yeah
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 05:57 a.m.
How did you and the individual to the right end up in the same car?
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:28 a.m.
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 07:50 a.m.
Well I wasn't specifically looking at who got into my car when I respawned and started to make my way to the capitol, I simply spawned my vehicle and tried to get back to the governors location as quickly as possible
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 07:50 a.m.
I was also tabbed out during parts of my drive there
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 07:54 a.m.
Is it accurate to say that, when you first saw the impersonator in your vehicle, you assumed he was MSP because his username wasn't visible?
@chappie342
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 07:58 a.m.
Actually, withdrawn.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 07:58 a.m.
When you first noticed the impersonator in your vehicle, was his username visible?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 08:19 a.m.
No
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 08:20 a.m.
Usernames aren't typically visible whilst inside vehicles so I don't think I ever got a chance to check the individuals username, and such a thing wasn't my main focus at the time
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 08:22 a.m.
Makes sense!
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 08:22 a.m.
You mentioned you were on your way to the capitol.

Why?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 08:25 a.m.
Well as evident from the DiamondKreek's video, he was clearly out to cause chaos given he purchased an illegal firearm along with illegal ammunition, was driving a vehicle almost identical to the protections cadillac and was in our uniforms --

After dying at the capitol as a result of DiamondKreek and his friends managing to breach the perimeter of our established protections zone at the capitol and shooting myself and other state protections members up, I was making my way back to the capitol seeing as there were still ongoing shootouts and the governor's safety was at risk
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 08:26 a.m.
My main focus in the scenario was to get to the state capitol and neutralize any person[s] posing a threat to the governor's safety
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 08:27 a.m.
When you say "DiamondKreek" killed you, you mean DiamondKreekKiIIer?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 08:28 a.m.
Yes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 08:28 a.m.
Let the record reflect that the witness answered in the affirmative.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 08:30 a.m.
One last question--I hope.

In your experience as a peace officer, is it common for impersonators to try and jump into MSP vehicles?
@chappie342
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 08:31 a.m.
It has happened before to myself and a few colleagues of mine, and I believe on the day of the incident as well
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 08:31 a.m.
One of the impersonators jumped into an unlocked cadillac and we got confused in vc
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 08:35 a.m.
When you say it has happened before, how often would you estimate these incidents occur?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 08:35 a.m.
Multiple friendly fire incidents also occurred on this day, January 5th as a result of them unexpectedly wearing our uniforms
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 08:35 a.m.
For the record
BrendaBrenda
When you say it has happened before, how often would you estimate these incidents occur?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 08:36 a.m.
These incidents have kind of died down now seeing as we have learned from these mistakes and people are generally more knowledgeable of impersonation strategies now, however at the time of the incident, impersonations were a common thing able to be seen almost every week in Clark
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 08:37 a.m.
Let the record reflect that the witness has answered such impersonations were common at the time.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 08:37 a.m.
No further questions for now.
@mike_bn
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 09:56 a.m.
@dero @Nicklaus cross?
mike_bnmike_bn
@dero @Nicklaus cross?
dero
dero 2025-02-26 10:49 a.m.
Yes please just a moment
dero
dero 2025-02-26 10:56 a.m.
@chappie342 Alrighty are you still here
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 10:56 a.m.
Yes
dero
dero 2025-02-26 10:56 a.m.
Awesome
dero
dero 2025-02-26 10:57 a.m.
During the investigation into tactical_pancakes, you did speak to Internal Affairs, is that correct?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 10:57 a.m.
Yes
dero
dero 2025-02-26 10:59 a.m.
During your interview, do you remember saying "Yes, well I've been faced with the same scenario before and Im pretty sure I'd just assumed that he knew what he was doing and shot the complainant under protections of justified homicide in the state code but I guess that wasn't the case [...] (intentionally skipped forward) so it was my best guess that pancakes had already asked if he had NLR or not before I respawned at MSP.?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 11:00 a.m.
I wouldn't know that information due to game mechanics, the radio clears itself upon death, and given the fact that I never saw a clear username of the individual I wouldn't refer to them as mr pancakes(edited)
chappie342chappie342
I wouldn't know that information due to game mechanics, the radio clears itself upon death, and given the fact that I never saw a clear username of the individual I wouldn't refer ...(edited)
dero
dero 2025-02-26 11:01 a.m.
Well, that is what you told Internal Affairs, do you not remember that?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 11:01 a.m.
I do
dero
dero 2025-02-26 11:01 a.m.
Why is your answer different now?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 11:01 a.m.
That is what I stated during the interview
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 11:01 a.m.
yes
derodero
Why is your answer different now?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 11:01 a.m.
I have simply re-evaluated my view
dero
dero 2025-02-26 11:01 a.m.
Got it, for court right?
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 11:02 a.m.
Objection, badgering
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 11:02 a.m.
@mike_bn
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 11:02 a.m.
I never got a username of the individual, so there would be no reason for myself to refer to the individual as Mr pancakes, that would be a lie.
derodero
Got it, for court right?
dero
dero 2025-02-26 11:02 a.m.
Ill withdraw this if this is the problem
chappie342chappie342
I never got a username of the individual, so there would be no reason for myself to refer to the individual as Mr pancakes, that would be a lie.
dero
dero 2025-02-26 11:02 a.m.
move to strike because it was after objection
derodero
Ill withdraw this if this is the problem
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 11:27 a.m.
It is
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 05:03 p.m.
sure
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 05:03 p.m.
so striken
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 05:04 p.m.
@dero continue please dont badger
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 05:04 p.m.
if u want to impeach handle it nicely please
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 05:04 p.m.
(which is what i believe u were going for)
dero
dero 2025-02-26 05:04 p.m.
You're right, sorry, Your Honor :🙏:
dero
dero 2025-02-26 05:04 p.m.
Okay @chappie342 Are you still here
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:40 p.m.
Yes
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 05:41 p.m.
@dero
chappie342chappie342
I wouldn't know that information due to game mechanics, the radio clears itself upon death, and given the fact that I never saw a clear username of the individual I wouldn't refer ...(edited)
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:04 p.m.
Why was it your statement to Internal Affairs that the man who shot DiamondKreekKiller was tactical_pancakes, if you're changing your mind now?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 06:04 p.m.
Objection
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 06:05 p.m.
Offering conclusions not in evidence
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:05 p.m.
Ok so the statements are in evidence
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 06:05 p.m.
I'll wait and see if insert wants us to separately address our views.
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:05 p.m.
He can testify to statements he made because he made them
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:05 p.m.
okay sure
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 06:05 p.m.
cc: @mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 06:06 p.m.
I'm happy to elaborate on my objection, if the court sees fit
derodero
Why was it your statement to Internal Affairs that the man who shot DiamondKreekKiller was tactical_pancakes, if you're changing your mind now?
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:32 p.m.
Assumes facts not in evidence.

Chappie never stated that the man who shot Diamond is Tactical; neither now nor during the original IA investigation. He stated, in the investigation, that he never saw the shooter's username; and that he "had thought" the shooter was tactical at the time of the incident:

I mean kinda hard to tell since he's facing forward for 90% of the video * * * I had simply assumed pancakes knew what he was doing
See Exhibit B

To say "I had" believed =/ I currently believe.

Chappie did not testify, at any point during the IA investigation, that it is his belief that the impersonator is Tactical. He used the pluperfect "I had thought * * *" to indicate that that was his initial impression when it happened.

Chappie also states, countless times, during the IA investigation that their username was not visible and that "it could be anyone." So there's no contention for this line of questioning.

@mike_bn
(edited)
BrendaBrenda
Assumes facts not in evidence. Chappie never stated that the man who shot Diamond is Tactical; neither now nor during the original IA investigation. He stated, in the investigatio...(edited)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:33 p.m.
Also Asked & Answered.
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:34 p.m.
Excerpt from Ex. J

Q: "So you saw pancakes kill him but you assumed it was a justified shooting since he was someone who previously tried to kill the governor and didnt have NLR correct?"

A: "Yes, well I've been faced with the same scenario before and Im pretty sure I'd just assumed that he knew what he was doing and shot the complainant under protections of justified homicide in the state code"
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:34 p.m.
Witness affirms it was pancakes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:34 p.m.
"Im pretty sure I'd just assumed "

Again, pluperfect / past perfect tense.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:34 p.m.
He is stating that he assumed, during the incident, that it was Tactical.
BrendaBrenda
Also Asked & Answered.
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:35 p.m.
Also you never once asked him what I am asking him and if you did please show me
BrendaBrenda
He is stating that he assumed, during the incident, that it was Tactical.
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:35 p.m.
No he is saying he assumed that pancakes was doing the right thing. His language was not that he assumed it was pancakes
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:36 p.m.
Nothing in his language, and his testimony as a whole, even remotely suggests an affirmative statement that the person is Tactical.(edited)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:36 p.m.
As he stated, multiple times before this answer, the username was not visible.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:36 p.m.
And it "could be anyone."
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:36 p.m.
So you trying to rely on semantics and nouns is irrelevant.
BrendaBrenda
And it "could be anyone."
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:38 p.m.
\
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:38 p.m.
Again, he is testifying as to what he assumed.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:38 p.m.
Not what he believes.
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:38 p.m.
Yes but not on the matter of identity
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:38 p.m.
hes assuming that the actions of pancakes were lawful
BrendaBrenda
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:38 p.m.
"I mean I'd obviously see that as pancakes but it could be anyone * * *"
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
6 minutes before the photo you sent
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
Next question
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
That was a different picture
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
not even relating to the video
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
It's the same conversation, 6 minutes before.
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
like girl
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
It's the same conversation, 6 minutes before.
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
From IA.
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
yes while hes being shown a photo of just pancakes
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
then goes on to contradict himself
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
Not at all.
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:39 p.m.
and then contradicts himself again here
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:40 p.m.
Hes either lying to IA or lying to the court. Also can you tell your client to stop DMing us? He started out asking for a deal wanting the case over and now he wants to object to anything and everything
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:41 p.m.
Nope.

The statements you're referencing are all in the pluperfect / past perfect tense.

I had assumed / I'd assumed / I'd * * *
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 06:41 p.m.
Not

I believe / I assume / I think
dero
dero 2025-02-26 06:42 p.m.
Hes changing answers lock in
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 06:53 p.m.
Can I please not be accused of lying to the court Im pretty sure I took an oath for a reason
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 06:53 p.m.
And I full well understand that if I violate that oath I am subject to criminal charges
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 06:58 p.m.
ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 06:58 p.m.
you two @Brenda @dero fined 1k each for cross talking
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 06:58 p.m.
make your objection, respond
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 06:58 p.m.
and zip it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 06:58 p.m.
no back and forth
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 06:59 p.m.
Can we please go all the way back to my original objection, which started this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 06:59 p.m.
is his statement not in evidence
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 06:59 p.m.
hes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 06:59 p.m.
@Deleted User
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:00 p.m.
i was reviewing
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:00 p.m.
Captured with Lightshot
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:00 p.m.
the statement he was asked about, is it in evidence
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:00 p.m.
We contend it isn’t
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:00 p.m.
May I have time to explain
mike_bnmike_bn
the statement he was asked about, is it in evidence
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 07:00 p.m.
No, such a statement doesn't exist
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:00 p.m.
no objections are meant to be quick
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:00 p.m.
ill sustain it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:00 p.m.
just move on
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:00 p.m.
Thank you
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:00 p.m.
Can everything after my objection by stricken
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:01 p.m.
And we move from there
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:01 p.m.
sure
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:01 p.m.
Okay theres literally a picture of his statement in evidence, your honor
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:01 p.m.
next time someone cross talks im going to take the others side
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:01 p.m.
respectfully
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:01 p.m.
what exhibit
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:01 p.m.
J
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:01 p.m.
@Deleted User ?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:01 p.m.
i did ask you like three times if it was in evidence
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:01 p.m.
Your honor we supplied, in direct, a statement proving Mr Chappie did not confirm that I was the shooters
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:01 p.m.
This is in evidence
BrendaBrenda
Assumes facts not in evidence. Chappie never stated that the man who shot Diamond is Tactical; neither now nor during the original IA investigation. He stated, in the investigatio...(edited)
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 07:02 p.m.
also see^^
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:02 p.m.
The counselor is trying to twist testimony to advance their argument, and does so erroneously
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:02 p.m.
okay just move on
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:02 p.m.
All im doing is referencing what he said in the picture
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:02 p.m.
its not substantial enough to warrant all of this
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:02 p.m.
like a direct quote
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:02 p.m.
im with ya but just continue please
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:02 p.m.
Okay
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:03 p.m.
@chappie342 https://prnt.sc/bOhvSe13Uuaw Do you recognize this conversation between you and "Steel"?
Captured with Lightshot
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:04 p.m.
what exhibit is this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:04 p.m.
plaintiff or defense j
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:04 p.m.
Exhibit J
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:04 p.m.
Defense J
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:04 p.m.
thanks
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:05 p.m.
note please when sending exhibits say what exhibit it is alongside what party it belongs to
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:05 p.m.
so counsel and the court can keep up
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:05 p.m.
@chappie342 u may answer
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:06 p.m.
:👍:
derodero
@chappie342 https://prnt.sc/bOhvSe13Uuaw Do you recognize this conversation between you and "Steel"?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 07:10 p.m.
Yes
chappie342chappie342
Yes
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:12 p.m.
Do the text exchanges between you and "Steel" on January 8th, 2025 appear the same as you remember them in the photo I just showed you?
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 07:12 p.m.
Yes they represent my beliefs at the time
chappie342chappie342
Yes they represent my beliefs at the time
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:14 p.m.
Well, I just want to clarify this. I am asking if the contents of the image match what you remember saying in the conversation on January 8th, 2025.
chappie342
chappie342 2025-02-26 07:15 p.m.
Yes they do
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:15 p.m.
Okay fantastic
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:15 p.m.
@mike_bn I move to admit Defense Exhibit J
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:15 p.m.
It’s already admitted
Deleted UserDeleted User
It’s already admitted
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-26 07:16 p.m.
where
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:16 p.m.
This got addressed in prelim, if I recall correctly
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-26 07:17 p.m.
i don't think its addressed in the pinned messages
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-26 07:17 p.m.
unless it was forgotten about
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:17 p.m.
was it not pre admitted
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:17 p.m.
I don’t think we disputed any of your exhibits. Some were duplicates, other were interview screenshots that we stipulated to
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:17 p.m.
It may have been overlooked
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:17 p.m.
objections!
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:17 p.m.
?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:17 p.m.
We don’t object to the exhibit
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:17 p.m.
so admitted
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:20 p.m.
Your honor side bar please
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:20 p.m.
@mike_bn
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:21 p.m.
Very urgent
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-02-26 07:21 p.m.
can we go to cahmbers
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:22 p.m.
@chappie342 You were asked by Mayflower State Police Internal Affairs: "So you saw pancakes kill him but you assumed it was a justified shooting since he was someone who previously tried to kill the governor and didnt have NLR correct?"

You replied: "Yes, well I've been faced with the same scenario before and Im pretty sure I'd just assumed that he knew what he was doing and shot the complainant under protections of justified homicide in the state code but I guess that wasn't the case, usually if it were me in pancakes shoes here I would ask the other protections troopers over the radio if they had killed or shot the driver of the black Cadillac but sadly your radio clears when you respawn so it was my best guess that pancakes had already asked if he had N:R or not before I respawned at MSP"

When you were answering the investigator's question, who were you speaking about?
dero
dero 2025-02-26 07:23 p.m.
Wait pause on that
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:23 p.m.
Pause, we asked for a side bar
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-26 07:24 p.m.
Objection, asked and answered.
Deleted UserDeleted User
Pause, we asked for a side bar
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:50 p.m.
ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 07:50 p.m.
what up
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:50 p.m.
Counsel is conversing
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 07:50 p.m.
Will advise
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-26 08:19 p.m.
hello?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-26 08:19 p.m.
We are conversing
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-28 03:18 p.m.
Your honor, both parties in this matter submit the following consented judgement order for your consideration:

File: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kKZzFlL2V__71PnNwud3tpGjjfHHH65t/view?usp=sharing

This is signed by all parties-to-case.

@mike_bn
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-28 03:27 p.m.
PDF copy
Deleted UserDeleted User
Your honor, both parties in this matter submit the following consented judgement order for your consideration: File: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kKZzFlL2V__71PnNwud3tpGjjfHH...
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-28 04:52 p.m.
sure
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-28 04:52 p.m.
it is granted
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-28 04:52 p.m.
you can add my signature
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-28 04:52 p.m.
what should the deadline for compliance be
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-02-28 04:53 p.m.
@Brenda @dero @Nicklaus
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-28 05:01 p.m.
It is already in the process of being fulfilled
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-02-28 05:01 p.m.
We will keep you updated
mike_bnmike_bn
you can add my signature
Brenda
Brenda 2025-02-28 05:09 p.m.
I've added your signature to the document.
dero
dero 2025-02-28 05:50 p.m.
:👍:
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:55 a.m.
k
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:55 a.m.
just lmk when u want this archived
mike_bnmike_bn
just lmk when u want this archived
dero
dero 2025-03-01 02:36 p.m.
this can be archived now
dero
dero 2025-03-01 02:36 p.m.
ty judge
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 06:10 p.m.
before i do that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 06:10 p.m.
everyone pay their fines
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 06:11 p.m.
I am at a very large fires
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 06:11 p.m.
I will address my objection to paying
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 06:11 p.m.
When I return
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 06:11 p.m.
Probably tomorrow
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 06:11 p.m.
I ask not to be held in contempt
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 06:11 p.m.
While I’m away
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 06:11 p.m.
ur not in contempt
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 06:11 p.m.
i wont
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 06:11 p.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 06:11 p.m.
@Nicklaus @Deleted User 1k each payable to any random resident in game
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 06:12 p.m.
@Brenda @dero you two were also fined 1k for cross talk
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 06:12 p.m.
also payable to a random in game resident
mike_bnmike_bn
@Nicklaus @Deleted User 1k each payable to any random resident in game
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-01 06:21 p.m.
where’s this fine from
mike_bnmike_bn
@Brenda @dero you two were also fined 1k for cross talk
Brenda
Brenda 2025-03-01 07:17 p.m.
Ok
NicklausNicklaus
where’s this fine from
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 07:23 p.m.
cross talking after plenty of warnings
mike_bnmike_bn
cross talking after plenty of warnings
dero
dero 2025-03-01 07:28 p.m.
Ok to be fair I dont think i shouldve been fined because I cross talked once and I came into this case late so i wasnt here for ur warnings
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:01 p.m.
No
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:01 p.m.
its common understanding
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:01 p.m.
that is my biggest pet peeve
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:01 p.m.
by far
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:03 p.m.
What fine is this
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:03 p.m.
Direct criminal contempt)
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:03 p.m.
?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:03 p.m.
You haven’t been specific
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:11 p.m.
just a fine
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:12 p.m.
no ones in contempt
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:12 p.m.
Can you cite the statute that allows you to fine outside of contempt
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:12 p.m.
ok if u want to be technical i can too
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:12 p.m.
you violated a order of this court
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:13 p.m.
Either I’m in contempt or not
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:13 p.m.
an order you were present for and acknowledged
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:13 p.m.
I’m not bringing technical
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:13 p.m.
ok youre in contempt them
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:13 p.m.
then
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:13 p.m.
Is everybody in contempt?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:13 p.m.
everyone who violated my order
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:13 p.m.
Gotta be consistent
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:13 p.m.
and decided to treat a trial like a q&a
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:13 p.m.
Okay, then I want my contempt hearing
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:14 p.m.
what statute entitles you to one?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:14 p.m.
I’ll follow up after my shower
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:14 p.m.
ok
mike_bnmike_bn
no ones in contempt
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-01 08:15 p.m.
a fine to vindicate the authority of the court is criminal contempt
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:18 p.m.
everyone is in criminal contempt
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:18 p.m.
i was trying to be nice and keep stuff off the record
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:18 p.m.
but ill report it to the bar as well
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:18 p.m.
since we are being technical
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:19 p.m.
ill also add it to everyones in game records so its all by the book
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 08:23 p.m.
anything else im missing?
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-01 08:27 p.m.
You forgetting the hearing
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:21 p.m.
oh okay
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:21 p.m.
show me where that is mandatory
mike_bnmike_bn
ill also add it to everyones in game records so its all by the book
dero
dero 2025-03-01 10:23 p.m.
ok can i not get that though
dero
dero 2025-03-01 10:23 p.m.
i havent said a word after u told me i still have to pay
dero
dero 2025-03-01 10:23 p.m.
i will be paying it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:24 p.m.
yes you can choose to pay the 1k or if you prefer to have it done officially
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:24 p.m.
we can do it that way
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:24 p.m.
your choice
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:25 p.m.
actually
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:25 p.m.
ill revoke your fine just dont let it happen again!
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:25 p.m.
@dero
dero
dero 2025-03-01 10:25 p.m.
thank you your honor
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:26 p.m.
@Deleted User @Nicklaus @Brenda if you say you’re sorry ill do the same
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:26 p.m.
and you pinky promise to not flood case channels with nonsense bickering
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:26 p.m.
also @chappie342 you’re excused
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-01 10:27 p.m.
thank you for your testimony
chappie342
chappie342 2025-03-01 10:41 p.m.
ty\
mike_bnmike_bn
@Deleted User @Nicklaus @Brenda if you say you’re sorry ill do the same
Brenda
Brenda 2025-03-01 10:55 p.m.
Sorry
Brenda
Brenda 2025-03-01 10:55 p.m.
Won’t happen again
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-01 11:19 p.m.
Sorry judge
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-03-01 11:19 p.m.
Won't happen again
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-02 12:01 a.m.
AMAZING
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-02 12:01 a.m.
that leaves one….
Deleted User
Deleted User 2025-03-02 12:15 a.m.
Sorry
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-02 12:38 a.m.
GREAT
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-02 12:38 a.m.
@honkhonk this can go
Brenda
Brenda 2025-03-02 07:37 a.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-02 09:23 p.m.
i will unjail @intentionless @diamondkreekkiiier and the other guy tomorrow
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-02 09:23 p.m.
they will still have the contempt record
krabzkrabz used
/transcript
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-03-02 09:25 p.m.
Creating transcript..
krabz
krabz 2025-03-02 09:27 p.m.
rip clerkflow
mike_bnmike_bn
i will unjail @intentionless @diamondkreekkiiier and the other guy tomorrow
Brenda
Brenda 2025-03-03 11:30 a.m.
...
Brenda
Brenda 2025-03-03 11:30 a.m.
But they never complied?
Brenda
Brenda 2025-03-03 11:31 a.m.
They should be held in jail indefinitely until they do.

When and if they do, the Court should additionally hold them in criminal contempt and sentence them accordingly.
BrendaBrenda
They should be held in jail indefinitely until they do. When and if they do, the Court should additionally hold them in criminal contempt and sentence them accordingly.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-03 11:37 a.m.
case is over
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-03 11:37 a.m.
they have done their time
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-03-03 11:37 a.m.
they are to be released today
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